31 Mar
2014
31 Mar
'14
11:32 a.m.
Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework; it
should resolve units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines of
code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very much
in advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this and
you are welcome to contribute.
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31 Mar
31 Mar
12:05 p.m.
Really interesting idea ;-)
You want to build this on top on anacongua ?
Regards,
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillaume Larcheveque
<guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework; it
should resolve units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines of
code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very much in
advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this and you
are welcome to contribute.
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12:10 p.m.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich <
serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Really interesting idea ;-)
You want to build this on top on anacongua ?
What is anacongua? Something in Moose, Pharo?
Regards,
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillaume Larcheveque
<guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework;
it
should resolve units for example if you divide
number of bugs by lines of
code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very
much in
advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a
project for this and you
are welcome to contribute.
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Where can I find anacongua and what is it? I didn't ever heard about it.
I was planning to build it on top of Units because in my opinion a metric
is a unit.
2014-03-31 12:10 GMT+02:00 Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich <
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Really interesting idea ;-)
You want to build this on top on anacongua ?
What is anacongua? Something in Moose, Pharo?
Regards,
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Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example
the
name of the metric, a description, the associated
selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework;
it
should resolve units for example if you divide
number of bugs by lines
of
code, you should get
numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very
much in
advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a
project for this and
you
are welcome to contribute.
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Ok I found the paper about it and it seems that we are talking of the same
thing: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarcusDenker/Units
2014-03-31 12:50 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Larcheveque <
guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com>gt;:
Where can I find anacongua and what is it? I
didn't ever heard about it.
I was planning to build it on top of Units because in my opinion a metric
is a unit.
2014-03-31 12:10 GMT+02:00 Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>om>:
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Really interesting idea ;-)
You want to build this on top on anacongua ?
What is anacongua? Something in Moose, Pharo?
Regards,
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Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example
the
name of the metric, a description, the associated
selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit
framework; it
should resolve units for example if you divide
number of bugs by lines
of
code, you should get
numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you
multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average
value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very
much in
advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a
project for this and
you
are welcome to contribute.
--
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Aconcagua is a unit frameworks.
On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:50, Guillaume Larcheveque <guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Where can I find anacongua and what is it? I
didn't ever heard about it.
I was planning to build it on top of Units because in my opinion a metric is a unit.
2014-03-31 12:10 GMT+02:00 Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Really interesting idea ;-)
You want to build this on top on anacongua ?
What is anacongua? Something in Moose, Pharo?
Regards,
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillaume Larcheveque
<guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework; it
should resolve units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines of
code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very much in
advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this and you
are welcome to contribute.
--
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Hi,
Nice project.
You should probably take into consideration that FM3PropertyDescription is
an object representing a property. For example:
class := FAMIXClass new numberOfLinesOfCode: 42.
loc := class mooseDescription allAttributes detect: [ :each | each name
= #numberOfLinesOfCode ].
class mmGetProperty: loc
==> 42
A possible route would be to add extra constraints (for example related to
the type) to this object.
Another option would be to have the numberOfLinesOfCode method return a
linesOfText unit. This implies that code like:
group inject: 0 into: [:sum :each | sum + each numberOfLinesOfCode]
would break. We can live with this and fix the breaking places, but it
should be a thing to consider.
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillaume Larcheveque <
guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework; it
should resolve units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines of
code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very much
in advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this and
you are welcome to contribute.
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9:34 a.m.
In certain situations, we need to display metrics with meaningful labels in
the browsers and in that case, showing selector names does not look good.
With proposed framework, we'll have the objects knowing their labels and
know how to compute their units.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
Nice project.
You should probably take into consideration that FM3PropertyDescription is
an object representing a property. For example:
class := FAMIXClass new numberOfLinesOfCode: 42.
loc := class mooseDescription allAttributes detect: [ :each | each name
= #numberOfLinesOfCode ].
class mmGetProperty: loc
==> 42
A possible route would be to add extra constraints (for example related to
the type) to this object.
Another option would be to have the numberOfLinesOfCode method return a
linesOfText unit. This implies that code like:
group inject: 0 into: [:sum :each | sum + each numberOfLinesOfCode]
would break. We can live with this and fix the breaking places, but it
should be a thing to consider.
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillaume Larcheveque <
guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework;
it should resolve units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines
of code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very much
in advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this and
you are welcome to contribute.
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On 01 Apr 2014, at 09:34, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In certain situations, we need to display metrics with
meaningful labels in the browsers and in that case, showing selector names does not look
good.
With proposed framework, we'll have the objects knowing their labels and know how to
compute their units.
I think that it is overkill.
Unit is for checking km/h or other stuff
Stef
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
Nice project.
You should probably take into consideration that FM3PropertyDescription is an object
representing a property. For example:
class := FAMIXClass new numberOfLinesOfCode: 42.
loc := class mooseDescription allAttributes detect: [ :each | each name =
#numberOfLinesOfCode ].
class mmGetProperty: loc
==> 42
A possible route would be to add extra constraints (for example related to the type) to
this object.
Another option would be to have the numberOfLinesOfCode method return a linesOfText unit.
This implies that code like:
group inject: 0 into: [:sum :each | sum + each numberOfLinesOfCode]
would break. We can live with this and fix the breaking places, but it should be a thing
to consider.
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillaume Larcheveque
<guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to represent a metric in Moose. I would
like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the name of the metric, a
description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework; it should resolve
units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines of code, you should get
numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply this by line of code to get the
estimated average value you get numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very much in advance to
indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this and you are welcome to contribute.
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I am not sure what you are replying to. I understand what you need and I
simply pointed out what I think the alternatives are.
If you take the second alternative, it implies significant changes to the
way the clients of metrics work with those metrics. But, it can be
interesting nevertheless.
Doru
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In certain situations, we need to display metrics with
meaningful labels
in the browsers and in that case, showing selector names does not look good.
With proposed framework, we'll have the objects knowing their labels and
know how to compute their units.
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Hi,
Nice project.
You should probably take into consideration that FM3PropertyDescription
is an object representing a property. For example:
class := FAMIXClass new numberOfLinesOfCode: 42.
loc := class mooseDescription allAttributes detect: [ :each | each
name = #numberOfLinesOfCode ].
class mmGetProperty: loc
==> 42
A possible route would be to add extra constraints (for example related
to the type) to this object.
Another option would be to have the numberOfLinesOfCode method return a
linesOfText unit. This implies that code like:
group inject: 0 into: [:sum :each | sum + each numberOfLinesOfCode]
would break. We can live with this and fix the breaking places, but it
should be a thing to consider.
Cheers,
Doru
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Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework;
it should resolve units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines
of code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very
much in advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this
and you are welcome to contribute.
--
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We had a meeting with Anne and Nicolas about this and it will break too
many things to be reasonably done. Moreover it will be really difficult to
still have a consistent meta-model including a Metric type based on a Unit
framework.
To solve our problem in Synectique, I will just create a method ( #metric:
aSelector ) that will return a MooseMetric object filled with the
corresponding MSEProperty and all our Metrics description (displayName,
description, unit...) will be defined in a dictionary.
2014-04-02 7:25 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>om>:
I am not sure what you are replying to. I understand
what you need and I
simply pointed out what I think the alternatives are.
If you take the second alternative, it implies significant changes to the
way the clients of metrics work with those metrics. But, it can be
interesting nevertheless.
Doru
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In certain situations, we need to display metrics
with meaningful labels
in the browsers and in that case, showing selector names does not look good.
With proposed framework, we'll have the objects knowing their labels and
know how to compute their units.
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Hi,
Nice project.
You should probably take into consideration that FM3PropertyDescription
is an object representing a property. For example:
class := FAMIXClass new numberOfLinesOfCode: 42.
loc := class mooseDescription allAttributes detect: [ :each | each
name = #numberOfLinesOfCode ].
class mmGetProperty: loc
==> 42
A possible route would be to add extra constraints (for example related
to the type) to this object.
Another option would be to have the numberOfLinesOfCode method return a
linesOfText unit. This implies that code like:
group inject: 0 into: [:sum :each | sum + each numberOfLinesOfCode]
would break. We can live with this and fix the breaking places, but it
should be a thing to consider.
Cheers,
Doru
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Currently, there is no object in my knowledge to
represent a metric in
Moose. I would like to have this kind of object to ask it for example the
name of the metric, a description, the associated selector...
Ideally this object should have the same behaviour than Unit framework;
it should resolve units for example if you divide number of bugs by lines
of code, you should get numberOfBugs.linesOfCode^(-1); then if you multiply
this by line of code to get the estimated average value you get
numberOfBugs...
If I missed an existing implementation close to this, thank you very
much in advance to indicate me otherwise I will create a project for this
and you are welcome to contribute.
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