On 12 Jun 2015, at 09:36, Jan Kurš <kurs(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
Did you tried to inspect the PPFailure in the Moose? There is a tab with a tree structure
giving you a pretty good overview, what is going wrong... Or as an alternative, one can
myParser enableDebug parse:myInput
Otherwise, PetitParser really needs some nice error reporting system.
I would have integrated one, but I am not aware of any suitable solution :(
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:07 AM Francisco Garau <francisco.garau(a)gmail.com
On 11 Jun 2015, at 10:47, Camille <camille.teruel(a)gmail.com
>> On 11 Jun 2015, at 09:30, Jan Kurš <kurs(a)iam.unibe.ch
>> That sounds really cool and useful extension.
> Thank you Jan!
>> Regarding the furthest failure, the core of the problem is the distinction
between an error and a failure. Error reports on a problem in the input, while failure is
information for choice parser combinator. In general, the furthest failure is a better
approximation of an error than the last failure, so we use it.
>> I am not sure what exactly is the problem in case of PrattParser. I guess the
last failure gives better results for a user?
> Yes, with furthest failure I get errors from tokenization instead of my errors.
> For exemple with the calculator grammar I gave in my first mail when I parse ‘1+’ the
furthestFailure is ‘$- expected at 2’ whereas I return ‘expression expected at 2’ because
there's a whole expression missing. Same thing with ‘(1+2’ that returns ‘digit
expected at 4’ instead of ‘$) expected at 4’.
> But furthest failure gives wrong messages in other cases to.
> Consider this sequence parser:
> keyword := #letter asParser plus , $: asParser.
> keyword parse: ‘foo'
> This returns 'letter expected at 3’, but no matter how many letters I add to the
end I’ll still get ‘letter expected’.
> I want to get what is really missing: '$: expected at 3’.
Any of those error messages wouldn't be too bad if the failing production rule were
also mentioned. Something like "keyword rule failed with xx expected at 3"
But yeah, that would require annotating the production rules which can pollute the
clarity of the grammar definition...
> Maybe returning the “latest furthest failure” instead of the “first furthest failure”
could solves the problem here (i.e. replacing > with >= in
>> One has to consider a pratt parser included in the normal parser, e. g.
Expressions parsed by pratt in a Java Grammar. Depending where an error occurs, different
strategy for choosing the proper failure is necessary :-/
> Indeed, my hack (redefining #parseWithContext:) works only when the Pratt parser is
the top parser, but a soon as I compose it I’m screwed because only parseOn: is sent to
the Pratt parser.
> That’s why I wonder if letting the parser decide what to return wouldn’t solve the
problem: by default the furthest failure but special parsers can still decide.
>> Regarding tokenization, there is a message token, that returns PPTokenParser,
which transforms a parsed input into the PPToken object. Perhaps this might be helpful?
> The Pratt tokens are special: a token points back to the parser that generated it
> PPTokenKind subclasses PPFlatteningParser and generates instances of PPPrattToken.
> A PPTokenKind stores the precedence, the action to be executed when a token of this
kind is met at the start of an expression (for terminals and prefixes) and the action to
be executed when a token is met in the middle of an expression (for postfixes and
>> Cheers Jan
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 20:52 Richard Sargent
>> camille teruel wrote
>> >> On 10 Jun 2015, at 19:11, Chris Cunningham <
>> > cunningham.cb@
>> > > wrote:
>> >> Inteteresting....
>> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Camille <
>> > camille.teruel@
>> > <mailto:
>> > camille.teruel@
>> > >> wrote:
>> >> Hello Pharoers and Moosers,
>> >> I did a Pratt parser extension for PetitParser.
>> > <snip>
>> >> @PP Devs:
>> >> I had trouble with the PPContext furthestFailure that is taken into
>> >> account instead of the failures I return, so I had to redefine
>> >> #parseWithContext: to return the failures I want. The results given by
>> >> furthestFailure were not very meaningful in my case (the same is true
>> >> PPExpressionParser btw).
>> >> But I guess it was introduced because it gives good results in other
>> >> cases.
>> >> So would it be possible to change this behavior to let the parser
>> >> if it returns the furthestFailure or the original failure?
>> >> The intent behind the furthestFailure is that it give the failure that
>> >> gets the furthest into the source stream. It is most useful when there
>> >> are embedded choice operators in the parser - the original/pre furthest
>> >> behaviour would return the last failure, which depending on the
>> >> stream and the order of the choice options could be significantly not
>> >> useful.
>> >> I ran into this when working with the sql parser, which started off
>> >> the outer choice of (by memory):
>> >> ^ selectStatement / insertStatement / updateStatement /
>> >> deleteStatement
>> >> If I was trying to part a select statement that had an error at the
>> >> end of the statement, the parser would return an error talking about
>> >> the incoming stream failed in deleteStatement. Not useful.
>> >> I would be saddened if this further failure was not available.
>> > Yes in that case returning the furthest failure gives better results.
>> > However, this don’t give meaningful messages in all cases.
>> > For exemple with the calculator I gave in my previous message, if I parse
>> > ‘1+’ I want to get ‘expression expected at: 2’ but instead it returns ‘$-
>> > expected at 2'.
>> > I’m not proposing to remove this feature but to let parsers decide to use
>> > it or not.
>> > Something like (changes in bold):
>> > PPParser>>parseWithContext: context
>> > | result |
>> > context initializeFor: self.
>> > result := self parseOn: context.
>> > "Return the furthest failure, it gives better results than the
>> > failure"
>> > (result isPetitFailure and: [ self wantsFurthestFailure and: [
>> > furthestFailure notNil ] ])
>> > ifTrue: [ ^ context furthestFailure ].
>> > ^ result
>> This screams at me. Why not just delegate to the context and use a context
>> that returns the preferred failure? e.g. end with:
>> ^context preferredResultFor: result.
>> > PPParser>>wantsFurthestFailure
>> > ^ true
>> > Like this, one can return the failures he wants.
>> > PPPrattParser>>wantsFurthestFailure
>> > ^ false
>> > Camille
>> >> -cbc
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