24 Sep
2015
24 Sep
'15
11:55 p.m.
Okay, with that definition of class model. That is already done. This
database, and I am using that term loosely is all in the image, in
object collections. It will only contain a few 100 or 1000 items. I
don't see a need at the moment to involve MongoDB or some other outside
source. I will have an export/import mechanism for data safety.
There at the moment is no data because there is no data entry that my
wife can use. Which is why I am inquiring so that I can begin to build
her a UI to begin data entry.
Yes, I understand there could be much trial and error in building the
UI. For me for this personal project, I am okay with that. I count that
as part of my education. Along with any other of the many mistakes that
I make that I can encounter.
I am fully aware that I will potentially do my fair share of stupid
while learning. The only cost here is my time. I am okay with that
price. Hopefully at some point I will get better.
So with that said, any pointers to building a data entry UI.
Labels, fields, combobox, buttons, ...
I could do this in a web form without to much problem. Which was
somewhat I was exploring in my Pier question. But I thought I would give
learning UI building in Pharo a try. It seems that GT is where UI things
are moving. Just a perception. I could be wrong. If possible I prefer
going with the future as opposed to legacy at this point.
And ultimately I might end up going with a web ui, client server setup.
But I would still like to know my in image UI options and where to
learn. I have other projects I want to do.
Thanks for engaging in the conversation. I appreciate your time and
understanding.
Jimmie
On 09/24/2015 03:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can see
navigating, visualization and querying. But what about adding, editing and removing
objects? Is GT the wrong tool for this aspect?
No, Glamour offer ways to easily
build an UI. My advice is to not focus too much on the UI aspect at the beginning of your
project. The reason is that the UI is very fragile during the inception of a project: UI
changes quickly and are time-consuming to produce.
I am not clear on the class-model. Information or
pointers to documentation would be great.
What I meant is the following. If you
have a data base table that has the following column titles:
name,parent,age,location,country
Then maybe you can define a class Person, with one instance variable to a parent, another
for a location. You can have a class City with a name and the country in which the city
is.
This is what I meant by having a class model.
Once you have this, all the machinery is nearly free.
Cheers
Alexandre
> Thanks.
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> Jimmie
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> On 09/24/2015 01:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>> The way I see GT, is that you do not need to think too much about GUI. One very
first step is to build a class-model to describes the data stored in your data base. Once
you have this class-model, then navigating, visualization, and querying come literally for
free.
>>
>> Does this make sense? Do you need help to define the class-model?
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouchin(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Alexandre,
>>>
>>> I have added moose-dev to this reply.
>>>
>>> I do not at this time have any particular object models that I require
exploring. I have simply watched the videos on the browser, inspector, etc.. Most anything
Doru did. :)
>>>
>>> I am wanting to put a GUI together for a database I am building for my wife.
At this point it is simple and will be all contained in the image. This is a pretty
conventional thing at this moment.
>>>
>>> I have done nothing GUI oriented in Pharo and I need to learn those skills.
GT seems to be an awesome tool enabling very creative things.
>>>
>>> At a later date I will have some more adventurous things to try. But my
wife's database is where I want to begin learning.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jimmie
>>>
>>> On 09/24/2015 01:11 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>> Hi Jimmie,
>>>>
>>>> Question about GT should be sent to the moose mailing list.
>>>> What do you have in mind with GT? Do you have an object model to
explore?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Jimmie Houchin
<jlhouchin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have watched most all of the videos about GT.
>>>>> I am interested in learning how to use the Glamorous Toolkit.
>>>>> I am failing to find a beginning place for learning how to use and
program GT.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am probably overlooking it some where.
>>>>> I have downloaded the gtoolkit.image to begin learning.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently browsing code to learn what I can from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advise on documentation or best way to proceed in learning GT
greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jimmie
>>>>>
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