14 Oct
2011
14 Oct
'11
3:06 p.m.
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class: Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from
ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is inheriting from a similar
class in pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I need to rewrite these
Lattice and LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
14 Oct
14 Oct
3:39 p.m.
Pimon is a simple graphical engine.
Inheriting from Figure only provided display facility. It is not essential
for the algorithm. So, you should not do anything in this direction.
Now that you mentioned, you should get those classes inherit from Object
instead of ProtoObject.
Doru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to
Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class: Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from
ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is inheriting from a similar
class in pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I need to rewrite these
Lattice and LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
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3:51 p.m.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Pimon is a simple graphical engine.
Inheriting from Figure only provided display facility. It is not essential
for the algorithm. So, you should not do anything in this direction.
Now that algos are working, I am looking to create full lattices on top of
the algos: because I need to find patterns in the lattices (the approach is
constructed like that) and it is more evident to manipulate lattices than
simple concepts. Thats why now I am looking at the classes that create and
display FCA lattices. So I thought there might be a straightforward solution
to the problem.
Now that you mentioned, you should get those classes inherit from Object
instead of ProtoObject.
Ok I'll do it.
Doru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to
Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class: Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from
ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is inheriting from a
similar class in pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I need to
rewrite these Lattice and LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
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15 Oct
15 Oct
12:12 p.m.
Hi,
On 14 Oct 2011, at 15:51, Usman Bhatti wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Pimon is a simple graphical engine.
Inheriting from Figure only provided display facility. It is not essential for the
algorithm. So, you should not do anything in this direction.
Now that algos are working
Where is the code?
I am looking to create full lattices on top of the
algos: because I need to find patterns in the lattices (the approach is constructed like
that) and it is more evident to manipulate lattices than simple concepts. Thats why now I
am looking at the classes that create and display FCA lattices. So I thought there might
be a straightforward solution to the problem.
Most likely you will be better off using Mondrian for this.
Doru
Now that you mentioned, you should get those classes inherit from Object instead of
ProtoObject.
Ok I'll do it.
Doru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class: Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is inheriting from a similar class in
pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I need to rewrite these Lattice and
LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
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16 Oct
16 Oct
4:22 p.m.
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Yes. I am trying to use Mondrian entities for lattice building. So, I am
trying to understand and adapt the VW display classes for Pharo using
Mondrian.
There are two classes: Lattice and LatticeNode. Lattice contains
LatticeNodes. I am working on subclassing Lattice class from MONode and
adding elements (LatticeNodes) to it.
Hi,
On 14 Oct 2011, at 15:51, Usman Bhatti wrote:
The code is on my machine. Let me know the repo and I'll commit it there. I
am still playing with the presentation (lattice construction) part.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>
wrote:
Pimon is a simple graphical engine.
Inheriting from Figure only provided display facility. It is not
essential for the
algorithm. So, you should not do anything in this
direction.
Now that algos are working
Where is the code?
I am looking to create full lattices on top of
the algos: because I need
to find patterns in the lattices (the approach is
constructed like that) and
it is more evident to manipulate lattices than simple concepts. Thats why
now I am looking at the classes that create and display FCA lattices. So I
thought there might be a straightforward solution to the problem.
Most likely you will be better off using Mondrian for this.
Doru
Now that you mentioned, you should get those classes inherit from Object
instead
of ProtoObject.
Ok I'll do it.
Doru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to
Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class:
Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from
ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is
inheriting from a
similar class in pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I
need to
rewrite these Lattice and LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
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18 Oct
18 Oct
8:34 p.m.
Now, I can draw lattices with Mondrian. I need to upload the code although
its a bit smelly.
Should I create my own repo?
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>wrote;wrote:
Yes. I am trying to use Mondrian entities for lattice building. So, I am
trying to understand and adapt the VW display classes for Pharo using
Mondrian.
There are two classes: Lattice and LatticeNode. Lattice contains
LatticeNodes. I am working on subclassing Lattice class from MONode and
adding elements (LatticeNodes) to it.
Hi,
On 14 Oct 2011, at 15:51, Usman Bhatti wrote:
The code is on my machine. Let me know the repo and I'll commit it there. I
am still playing with the presentation (lattice construction) part.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>
wrote:
Pimon is a simple graphical engine.
Inheriting from Figure only provided display facility. It is not
essential for the
algorithm. So, you should not do anything in this
direction.
Now that algos are working
Where is the code?
I am looking to create full lattices on top of
the algos: because I need
to find patterns in the lattices (the approach is
constructed like that) and
it is more evident to manipulate lattices than simple concepts. Thats why
now I am looking at the classes that create and display FCA lattices. So I
thought there might be a straightforward solution to the problem.
Most likely you will be better off using Mondrian for this.
Doru
Now that you mentioned, you should get those classes inherit from Object
instead
of ProtoObject.
Ok I'll do it.
Doru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to
Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class:
Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from
ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is
inheriting from a
similar class in pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I
need to
rewrite these Lattice and LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
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9:51 p.m.
No :)
No multiplication of repo :)
I do not know if there is an inbox for Mondrian
but it would be good that alex have a look and after this is in the mondrian repo.
Stef
On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Usman Bhatti wrote:
Now, I can draw lattices with Mondrian. I need to
upload the code although its a bit smelly.
Should I create my own repo?
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
On 14 Oct 2011, at 15:51, Usman Bhatti wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Pimon is a simple graphical engine.
Inheriting from Figure only provided display facility. It is not essential for the
algorithm. So, you should not do anything in this direction.
Now that algos are working
Where is the code?
The code is on my machine. Let me know the repo and I'll commit it there. I am still
playing with the presentation (lattice construction) part.
I am looking to create full lattices on top of
the algos: because I need to find patterns in the lattices (the approach is constructed
like that) and it is more evident to manipulate lattices than simple concepts. Thats why
now I am looking at the classes that create and display FCA lattices. So I thought there
might be a straightforward solution to the problem.
Most likely you will be better off using Mondrian for this.
Yes. I am trying to use Mondrian entities for lattice building. So, I am trying to
understand and adapt the VW display classes for Pharo using Mondrian.
There are two classes: Lattice and LatticeNode. Lattice contains LatticeNodes. I am
working on subclassing Lattice class from MONode and adding elements (LatticeNodes) to
it.
Doru
Now that you mentioned, you should get those classes inherit from Object instead of
ProtoObject.
Ok I'll do it.
Doru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class: Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is inheriting from a similar class in
pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I need to rewrite these Lattice and
LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
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10:14 p.m.
Wait:
- First, the FCA engine should go into Moose-Algos-FormalConceptAnalysis from the
MooseAlgos repository.
- Second, we need tests
- Third, the Mondrian visualizations should be put for the moment in the
Moose-MondrianPaintings package from the Moose repository.
Cheers,
Doru
On 18 Oct 2011, at 21:51, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
No :)
No multiplication of repo :)
I do not know if there is an inbox for Mondrian
but it would be good that alex have a look and after this is in the mondrian repo.
Stef
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Now, I can draw lattices with Mondrian. I need to
upload the code although its a bit smelly.
Should I create my own repo?
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
On 14 Oct 2011, at 15:51, Usman Bhatti wrote:
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<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Pimon is a simple graphical engine.
Inheriting from Figure only provided display facility. It is not essential for the
algorithm. So, you should not do anything in this direction.
Now that algos are working
Where is the code?
The code is on my machine. Let me know the repo and I'll commit it there. I am still
playing with the presentation (lattice construction) part.
I am looking to create full lattices on top of
the algos: because I need to find patterns in the lattices (the approach is constructed
like that) and it is more evident to manipulate lattices than simple concepts. Thats why
now I am looking at the classes that create and display FCA lattices. So I thought there
might be a straightforward solution to the problem.
Most likely you will be better off using Mondrian for this.
Yes. I am trying to use Mondrian entities for lattice building. So, I am trying to
understand and adapt the VW display classes for Pharo using Mondrian.
There are two classes: Lattice and LatticeNode. Lattice contains LatticeNodes. I am
working on subclassing Lattice class from MONode and adding elements (LatticeNodes) to
it.
Doru
Now that you mentioned, you should get those classes inherit from Object instead of
ProtoObject.
Ok I'll do it.
Doru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am working on porting an FCA library from VW to Pharo.
In VW, classes LatticeNode and Lattice inherit from a class: Pimon.Figure.
The corresponding classes in pharo, already ported, inherit from ProtoObject.
My question: Is there an easy workaround (that is inheriting from a similar class in
pharo doing the work of Pimon.Figure) or do I need to rewrite these Lattice and
LatticeNode classes?
thanx
Usman
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