Hi Stef, There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in Moose and then you get the Finder.

Cheers, Doru On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as > mondrian) or list or whatever > we could get a default navigation menus offering all the > navigation facilities? > > Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

I do not understand :(. Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all possible navigation paths. Doru On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Stef, >> >> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the >> menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to >> open in Moose and then you get the Finder. > > that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I > see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I > want to apply on it > so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all > class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for > me having the possibility > to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the > moose map is missing. > > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as >>> mondrian) or list or whatever >>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>> navigation facilities? >>> >>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have but a specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it does not offer the Moose menu. For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if it works for you. For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all times you should use: - in the Mondrian visualization: view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. - in Glamour: a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] Cheers, Doru On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package group.... > then I would like to be able to > click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for > that particular package > click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for > that particular class > > Is it clearer? > > > > On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> I do not understand :(. >> >> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any >> entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking >> around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all >> possible navigation paths. >> >> Doru >> >> >> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> >>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Stef, >>>> >>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the >>>> menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to >>>> open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>> >>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I >>> see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I >>> want to apply on it >>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all >>> class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So >>> for me having the possibility >>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the >>> moose map is missing. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as >>>>> mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>>>> navigation facilities? >>>>> >>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "We are all great at making mistakes." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Exactly. Doru On 3 May 2010, at 22:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Good > if this is there we should have it all the time on any entity: > full navigation > On May 3, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have >> but a specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it >> does not offer the Moose menu. >> >> For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if >> it works for you. >> >> For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all >> times you should use: >> - in the Mondrian visualization: >> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >> >> - in Glamour: >> a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package >>> group.... >>> then I would like to be able to >>> click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps >>> for that particular package >>> click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for >>> that particular class >>> >>> Is it clearer? >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> I do not understand :(. >>>> >>>> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of >>>> any entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no >>>> looking around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you >>>> have all possible navigation paths. >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the >>>>>> menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have >>>>>> to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>>>> >>>>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where >>>>> I see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide >>>>> what I want to apply on it >>>>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find >>>>> all class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. >>>>> So for me having the possibility >>>>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on >>>>> the moose map is missing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either >>>>>>> as mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>>>>>> navigation facilities? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "We are all great at making mistakes." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev