I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
On May 11, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Usman Bhatti wrote:
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes,
but I guess that this the same in java. May be I'm incorrect but FAMIX class has Namespace and not package as parent.
it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class.
Yes it should
I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
But it is a bit strange that: - NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)." Why not call it Namespace in this case? And, again, why should we treat differently Namespaces and Packages?
nicolas
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De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace )
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix. Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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Hi,
On 11 May 2011, at 12:42, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
Indeed, this is what should be used.
But it is a bit strange that:
- NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
No. parentPackage is different than container. See below.
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)."
Why not call it Namespace in this case?
Because it can also be a Method in the case of Java. The comment says that for Smalltalk the container is explicitly a Namespace and not a Package.
And, again, why should we treat differently Namespaces and Packages?
Because they are different entities. Namespaces have semantic meaning in the language so they influence the unique name of the entity, while Packages are physical entities for packaging :). In Smalltalk the two are explicitly different. In C++ we have explicit Namespaces, but not so explicit Packages. In Java, we have both Namespace (what you define in your Java source), and Package (the folder structure), but they happen to overlap in naming (although one is with . and the other one is with /) so people tend to see them as packages only.
Cheers, Doru
nicolas
De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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On May 11, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
But it is a bit strange that:
- NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
you have two links. a class is scoped by a namespace a class is contained in a file/package
in java and C3 the two are mixed but these links that orthogonal.
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)."
Why not call it Namespace in this case? And, again, why should we treat differently Namespaces and Packages?
nicolas
De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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Ok ... so: ScopingEntity that defines the scope of the entity... ContainerEntity that contains a given entity... And I'll use ContainerEntity for C#.
I was thinking of the way in which Moose interprets them...
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
On May 11, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
But it is a bit strange that:
- NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this
ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
you have two links. a class is scoped by a namespace a class is contained in a file/package
in java and C3 the two are mixed but these links that orthogonal.
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is
explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)."
Why not call it Namespace in this case? And, again, why should we treat
differently Namespaces and Packages?
nicolas
De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to
access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent
and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it
would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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Hi,
Just to clarify: - container points to the entity that influences the unique name of the current Type - parentPackage points to the entity that represents the physical organization
Cheers, Doru
On 11 May 2011, at 15:38, Usman Bhatti wrote:
Ok ... so: ScopingEntity that defines the scope of the entity... ContainerEntity that contains a given entity... And I'll use ContainerEntity for C#.
I was thinking of the way in which Moose interprets them...
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
On May 11, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
But it is a bit strange that:
- NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
you have two links. a class is scoped by a namespace a class is contained in a file/package
in java and C3 the two are mixed but these links that orthogonal.
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)."
Why not call it Namespace in this case? And, again, why should we treat differently Namespaces and Packages?
nicolas
De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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On May 11, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Just to clarify:
- container points to the entity that influences the unique name of the current Type
in fact ScopingEntity would be a better name :)
- parentPackage points to the entity that represents the physical organization
Cheers, Doru
On 11 May 2011, at 15:38, Usman Bhatti wrote:
Ok ... so: ScopingEntity that defines the scope of the entity... ContainerEntity that contains a given entity... And I'll use ContainerEntity for C#.
I was thinking of the way in which Moose interprets them...
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
On May 11, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
But it is a bit strange that:
- NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
you have two links. a class is scoped by a namespace a class is contained in a file/package
in java and C3 the two are mixed but these links that orthogonal.
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)."
Why not call it Namespace in this case? And, again, why should we treat differently Namespaces and Packages?
nicolas
De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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Hi,
On 11 May 2011, at 16:01, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On May 11, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Just to clarify:
- container points to the entity that influences the unique name of the current Type
in fact ScopingEntity would be a better name :)
The convention in FAMIX is to name the properties by the type they point to. In our case, we have:
ContainerEntity ScopingEntity Namespace Package Type BehaviouralEntity
Because a Type can be contained BehaviouralEntity (in Java), we point to the container, not to the ScopingEntity.
Cheers, Doru
- parentPackage points to the entity that represents the physical organization
Cheers, Doru
On 11 May 2011, at 15:38, Usman Bhatti wrote:
Ok ... so: ScopingEntity that defines the scope of the entity... ContainerEntity that contains a given entity... And I'll use ContainerEntity for C#.
I was thinking of the way in which Moose interprets them...
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
On May 11, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
But it is a bit strange that:
- NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
you have two links. a class is scoped by a namespace a class is contained in a file/package
in java and C3 the two are mixed but these links that orthogonal.
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)."
Why not call it Namespace in this case? And, again, why should we treat differently Namespaces and Packages?
nicolas
De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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On May 11, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
On 11 May 2011, at 16:01, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On May 11, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Just to clarify:
- container points to the entity that influences the unique name of the current Type
in fact ScopingEntity would be a better name :)
The convention in FAMIX is to name the properties by the type they point to. In our case, we have:
ContainerEntity ScopingEntity Namespace Package Type BehaviouralEntity
Because a Type can be contained BehaviouralEntity (in Java), we point to the container, not to the ScopingEntity.
Cheers, Doru
- parentPackage points to the entity that represents the physical organization
Cheers, Doru
On 11 May 2011, at 15:38, Usman Bhatti wrote:
Ok ... so: ScopingEntity that defines the scope of the entity... ContainerEntity that contains a given entity... And I'll use ContainerEntity for C#.
I was thinking of the way in which Moose interprets them...
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
On May 11, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I use Class.setContainer(Namespace) in VerveineJ
But it is a bit strange that:
- NamedEntities have a ParentPackage relationship. Maybe this ParentPackage could be removed for the sake of consistency in the metamodel and we keep the more generic belongsTo (a ContainerEntity)
you have two links. a class is scoped by a namespace a class is contained in a file/package
in java and C3 the two are mixed but these links that orthogonal.
- then Type as the relationship "container" (a ContainerEntity) which is explicitly documented as: "Container is a namespace, not a package (Smalltalk)."
Why not call it Namespace in this case? And, again, why should we treat differently Namespaces and Packages?
nicolas
De: "Usman Bhatti" usman.bhatti@gmail.com À: "Moose-related development" moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Mai 2011 11:55:40 Objet: [Moose-dev] Namespace and Packages
I am creating a C# extractor for Moose. I am using Fame for java to access Famix objects and populate their information (similar to VerveineJ). While creating Famix.Class objects for C# classes, I need to set parent namespace to represent the namespace that the class belongs to.
However, the Famix.Class only provides a single method to set the parent and that take a Famix.Package as a parameter. So, the following expression is an error for a Famix.Class object.
class.setParentPackage(Namespace)
Since, C# uses namespaces instead of Packages to organize classes, it would be good to set a Famix.Namespace to be the parent of a class. Does meta-model not provide a way that we can set Famix.Namespace as a parent of a class. I can see another method in the Famix.Class and that is SetContainer(ContainerEntity se). Can I use this method to set a Namespace to be the parent of a Class and keeping the parentPackage relationship empty?
thanks.
Usman
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