31 Jul
2015
31 Jul
'15
1:50 p.m.
Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other platforms
such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable with Bloc, no?
Peter
31 Jul
31 Jul
1:56 p.m.
The right direction is to make things work on Bloc and commit to this
platform 100%. This will make things simpler and will take advantage of
what Bloc offers.
Doru
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other platforms
such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable with Bloc, no?
Peter
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2:07 p.m.
So Roassal3 will only be supported on Pharo?
(This is not a question about the benefits of a single platform or benefits
of Bloc, which are both known to me, but about other platforms.)
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
The right direction is to make things work on Bloc and
commit to this
platform 100%. This will make things simpler and will take advantage of
what Bloc offers.
Doru
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other platforms
such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable with Bloc, no?
Peter
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2:11 p.m.
On 31-07-15 13:50, Peter Uhnák wrote:
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other
platforms such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable
with Bloc, no?
There is an abstraction layer. There is no technical reason it can't be
kept up to date.
Advanced features get lost/are only supported on one platform/need a lot
of work
Stephan
3:20 p.m.
Frankly, I have no idea yet.
A couple of months ago I thought to completely drop the VisualWorks port. Roassal3 on
Pharo exist because we get funds from companies that are using VisualWorks. So, nothing is
clear for now.
Alexandre
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On Jul 31, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Peter Uhnák
<i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other platforms such as
VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable with Bloc, no?
Peter
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Le 31/7/15 15:20, Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
Frankly, I have no idea yet.
A couple of months ago I thought to completely drop the VisualWorks
port. Roassal3 on Pharo exist because we get funds from companies that
are using VisualWorks. So, nothing is clear for now.
Alex
if you offer a platform to analyse network package to chris in Pharo +
GT he will be more than happy.
This is why I asked him.
After you can still "maintained Roassal2" in VW but the future is not in
VW that I can tell you :)
Stef
Alexandre
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Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other
platforms such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be
unportable with Bloc, no?
Peter
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11:42 a.m.
+1 :)
Doru
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:36 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
Le 31/7/15 15:20, Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
Frankly, I have no idea yet.
A couple of months ago I thought to completely drop the VisualWorks port.
Roassal3 on Pharo exist because we get funds from companies that are using
VisualWorks. So, nothing is clear for now.
Alex
if you offer a platform to analyse network package to chris in Pharo + GT
he will be more than happy.
This is why I asked him.
After you can still "maintained Roassal2" in VW but the future is not in
VW that I can tell you :)
Stef
Alexandre
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On Jul 31, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other platforms
such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable with Bloc, no?
Peter
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"Every thing has its own flow"
11:34 a.m.
If Roassal's future is not on Bloc then it will be difficult because
Bloc is far better than Trachel.
Bloc is the foundation for Pharo and the feedback we got from experts
who did an equivalent of Bloc
during 5 years on top of VW, first bloc is better done, second they plan
to migrate).
I think that the path for Alex is
- maintain Roassal 2 for VW and Mooser (and ask user to pay for
extension like in normal life when you buy your bread)
- work calmly and secretly on Roassal 3 or whatever name on Bloc.
-- make it really really sexy
-- learn from telescope model
Stef
Le 31/7/15 13:50, Peter Uhnák a écrit :
Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other
platforms such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable
with Bloc, no?
Peter
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12:07 p.m.
Bloc does indeed seem like a very well designed library and a good
replacement for Morphic. I also the fact that it comes with a ton of
examples :)
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:35 PM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
If Roassal's future is not on Bloc then it will be
difficult because Bloc
is far better than Trachel.
Bloc is the foundation for Pharo and the feedback we got from experts who
did an equivalent of Bloc
during 5 years on top of VW, first bloc is better done, second they plan
to migrate).
I think that the path for Alex is
- maintain Roassal 2 for VW and Mooser (and ask user to pay for
extension like in normal life when you buy your bread)
- work calmly and secretly on Roassal 3 or whatever name on Bloc.
-- make it really really sexy
-- learn from telescope model
Stef
Le 31/7/15 13:50, Peter Uhnák a écrit :
Hi,
I am wondering... how will moving Roassal to Bloc affect other platforms
such as VisualWorks? Because it seems it would be unportable with Bloc, no?
Peter
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1:44 a.m.
Yes, it looks like to be
Alexandre
On Aug 1, 2015, at 6:34 AM, stepharo
<stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
I think that the path for Alex is
- maintain Roassal 2 for VW and Mooser (and ask user to pay for extension like in
normal life when you buy your bread)
- work calmly and secretly on Roassal 3 or whatever name on Bloc.
-- make it really really sexy
-- learn from telescope model
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