No problem to use Roassal 2 instead ! But I have the same issue on the examples.

If you want some help, I can. But I need some pointers :)

RTDowserExample new coolStuff : <ghcgceef.png> That is under Linux. It's not very readable. And I think there is the same issue with W7 exists... But with this : LogicalFont familyName: 'Source Sans Pro' pointSize: 12 You have : <ijdgccca.png> I will search how to use the system fonts. a RTExample ... Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi Vincent, What is the status on this? At this moment, essentially all visualizations containing text are broken (Roassal, Roassal2, GraphET). This is a show stopper. Doru On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Vincent Blondeau < vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net&gt; wrote: -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Hi, The following code solve the issue under Roassal2 (Tested under Linux) : TRLabelShape class>>getFontForSize: aNumber ^ LogicalFont familyName: StandardFonts defaultFont familyName pointSize: aNumber For Roassal, the fonts used are the same that in Roassal2 so I don't think that is the problem. But it seems that the Athens Font Renderer has been changed (CairoFreetypeFontRenderer) the 4 February (Athens-Cairo-MarcusDenker.62). This the only thing I see with my knowledges on Roassal. And I don't know how to solve it. Maybe does Alexandre know ? Cheers, Vincent Le 15/02/2014 23:13, Tudor Girba a écrit : But, does anyone know what has changed recently in this area? My guess is that the change comes from Pharo. Or? Doru On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Tudor Girba &lt;tudor(a)tudorgirba.com&gt;wrote;wrote: -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing listMoose-dev@iam.unibe.chhttps://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi, I tried to debug a bit more. First, I noticed that Roassal was using the FreeTypeFont and Trachel the LogicalFont. I now changed Roassal to also use the LogicalFont. This did not solve the issue, but it does ease the comparison. (Just ensure that you clean the cached fonts from ROFontOrganizerAthens if you already worked in the same image before loading the new code)

Then, I noticed that even Trachel does not yet quite work: some letters still appear larger than others. However, at least in the case of Trachel, the width of the characters correspond to the size of the rendering (and this seems to still be a problem in Roassal). See attachments: <Mail Attachment.png> <Mail Attachment.png> The strange thing is that if you debug, it seems that the code is basically the same in both cases. I am stuck. Ideas?

Doru On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net&gt; wrote: Hi, For Roassal, I loaded the older packages of Athens-Core and Athens-Cairo : Name: Athens-Core-MarcusDenker.34 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 5 July 2013, 10:59:47.206954 am UUID: e844b2d4-b091-42a4-9be0-17101dcdbd30 Ancestors: Athens-Core-MarcusDenker.33, Athens-Core-ErwanDouaille.33 Name: Athens-Cairo-MarcusDenker.51 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 26 August 2013, 4:03:06.190096 pm UUID: 9e1bfddb-67f7-4a36-864d-11060b8b6881 Ancestors: Athens-Cairo-SebastianTleye.50 And I have no problem in font displaying ! In the newer version, they have implemented the text rendering with NativeBoost. As Roassal2 works fine with the newer version, I don't know if this is a problem with Roassal or with Athens-Cairo. Maybe you should look at it ? Cheers, Vincent Le 18/02/2014 07:43, Tudor Girba a écrit : _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi! I’ve just tried in a fresh up-to-date moose image: <Screen Shot 2014-02-24 at 6.05.40 PM.png> <Screen Shot 2014-02-24 at 6.06.35 PM.png> The odd font behavior you have shown in the previous emails, seems to happens after some time… I have seen it in the past. Alexandre On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Tudor Girba &lt;tudor(a)tudorgirba.com&gt; wrote: -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Is this problem about font solved for now? Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel &lt;alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,..;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Mixing capital letters seems to cause the problem <Screen Shot 2014-02-24 at 6.32.30 PM.png> Roassal2 seems to be not affected by this behavior. Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Alexandre Bergel &lt;alexandre.bergel(a)me.com&gt; wrote: -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,..;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

@Vincent: I think at this point you know the most about the issue. Would you like to take charge of it and bring it on the Pharo mailing list?

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Vincent Blondeau < vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net&gt; wrote: Hi, Maybe you should ask in the Pharo mailing list ? Because when you use the old Athens packages, this very strange behaviour vanishes .... Vincent Le 25/02/2014 07:25, Tudor Girba a écrit : _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Le 25/02/2014 15:38, Tudor Girba a écrit : It does not. I tried this on Windows 7: CairoBackendCache flush. RTView new add: (RTLabel elementOn: (String newFrom: ($a to: $z))); yourself And the problem is still there. What exactly do you do? That you made.... : CairoBackendCache flush. ROMondrianExample new labeledRectangle But I am under Linux x64.... Doru On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Vincent Blondeau < vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net&gt; wrote: -- www.tudorgirba..com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing listMoose-dev@iam.unibe.chhttps://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

It does not. I tried this on Windows 7: CairoBackendCache flush. RTView new add: (RTLabel elementOn: (String newFrom: ($a to: $z))); yourself And the problem is still there. What exactly do you do?

Doru On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Le 25/02/2014 13:31, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : Yes, please :) @Vincent: I think at this point you know the most about the issue. Would you like to take charge of it and bring it on the Pharo mailing list? Yes Vincent. Can you do it? The only thing I can do is forwarding the picture to the pharo mailing list and crying for help Alexandre There is a bug opened. A temporary solution is to do : CairoBackendCache flush Tell me if the problem is solved from your points of view ? Vincent On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Hi, Maybe you should ask in the Pharo mailing list ? Because when you use the old Athens packages, this very strange behaviour vanishes .... Vincent Le 25/02/2014 07:25, Tudor Girba a écrit : Yes, it is frustrating. Welcome back :) Doru On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel &lt;alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: Oh no... It now happens... <Mail Attachment.png> This bug is frustrating... Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Alexandre Bergel &lt;alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: Mixing capital letters seems to cause the problem <Screen Shot 2014-02-24 at 6.32.30 PM.png> Roassal2 seems to be not affected by this behavior. Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Alexandre Bergel &lt;alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: Is this problem about font solved for now? Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel &lt;alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: Hi! I've just tried in a fresh up-to-date moose image: <Screen Shot 2014-02-24 at 6.05.40 PM.png> <Screen Shot 2014-02-24 at 6.06.35 PM.png> The odd font behavior you have shown in the previous emails, seems to happens after some time... I have seen it in the past. Alexandre On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Tudor Girba &lt;tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Exactly, that is my current hypothesis, but I do not know exactly where to look. Doru On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Le 19/02/2014 07:06, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi, I tried to debug a bit more. First, I noticed that Roassal was using the FreeTypeFont and Trachel the LogicalFont. I now changed Roassal to also use the LogicalFont. This did not solve the issue, but it does ease the comparison. (Just ensure that you clean the cached fonts from ROFontOrganizerAthens if you already worked in the same image before loading the new code) Then, I noticed that even Trachel does not yet quite work: some letters still appear larger than others. However, at least in the case of Trachel, the width of the characters correspond to the size of the rendering (and this seems to still be a problem in Roassal). See attachments: <Mail Attachment.png> <Mail Attachment.png> The strange thing is that if you debug, it seems that the code is basically the same in both cases. I am stuck. Ideas? Look at the level of the canvas's creation, maybe the properties are not the same... Vincent Doru On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent..blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Hi, For Roassal, I loaded the older packages of Athens-Core and Athens-Cairo : Name: Athens-Core-MarcusDenker.34 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 5 July 2013, 10:59:47.206954 am UUID: e844b2d4-b091-42a4-9be0-17101dcdbd30 Ancestors: Athens-Core-MarcusDenker.33, Athens-Core-ErwanDouaille.33 Name: Athens-Cairo-MarcusDenker.51 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 26 August 2013, 4:03:06.190096 pm UUID: 9e1bfddb-67f7-4a36-864d-11060b8b6881 Ancestors: Athens-Cairo-SebastianTleye.50 And I have no problem in font displaying ! In the newer version, they have implemented the text rendering with NativeBoost. As Roassal2 works fine with the newer version, I don't know if this is a problem with Roassal or with Athens-Cairo. Maybe you should look at it ? Cheers, Vincent Le 18/02/2014 07:43, Tudor Girba a écrit : Thanks, Vincent. I integrated your change in Trachel. It works well now. Doru On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Hi, The following code solve the issue under Roassal2 (Tested under Linux) : TRLabelShape class>>getFontForSize: aNumber ^ LogicalFont familyName: StandardFonts defaultFont familyName pointSize: aNumber For Roassal, the fonts used are the same that in Roassal2 so I don't think that is the problem. But it seems that the Athens Font Renderer has been changed (CairoFreetypeFontRenderer) the 4 February (Athens-Cairo-MarcusDenker.62). This the only thing I see with my knowledges on Roassal. And I don't know how to solve it. Maybe does Alexandre know ? Cheers, Vincent Le 15/02/2014 23:13, Tudor Girba a écrit : But, does anyone know what has changed recently in this area? My guess is that the change comes from Pharo. Or? Doru On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Tudor Girba &lt;tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Hi Vincent, What is the status on this? At this moment, essentially all visualizations containing text are broken (Roassal, Roassal2, GraphET). This is a show stopper. Doru On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Le 13/02/2014 15:27, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : Let me know about your progresses with the font problem. Everything should be treated in Trachel I have the impression. I have found a solution to fix the bug: TRLabelShape class>>getFontForSize: aNumber ^ LogicalFont familyName: StandardFonts defaultFont familyName pointSize: aNumber In this, it creates an other font with the good size. Because if you don't do that, you always have the same problem. "StandardFonts defaultFont familyName" should be enough to get the font to use. Maybe we have to change something else in Roassal2. Cheers, Vincent Alexandre On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent...blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Le 13/02/2014 03:32, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : No problem to use Roassal 2 instead ! But I have the same issue on the examples. Which issue? The font display issue.. RTDowserExample new coolStuff : <ghcgceef.png> That is under Linux. It's not very readable.. And I think there is the same issue with W7 If you want some help, I can. But I need some pointers :) I have the impression, that the class TRLabelShape has to be improved. For example, consider the following method: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TRLabelShape class>>getFontForSize: aNumber ^ LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: aNumber -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The font name is hardcoded, which is not a good idea since you may have a different font set on your machine. It would be great to use the installed font, used by Pharo. That a good idea ! Because under Linux, the Arial font doesn't exists..... But with this : LogicalFont familyName: 'Source Sans Pro' pointSize: 12 You have : <ijdgccca.png> I will search how to use the system fonts. By the way, have you tried: RTExample new rotatingLabelsAnimated That doesn't work :( rotatingLabelsAnimated is not a valid message to a RTExample ... :-) Alexandre Cheers, Vincent -----Message d'origine----- De : moose-dev-bounces(a)iam.unibe.ch <mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam..unibe.ch> [mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam..unibe.ch> ] De la part de Alexandre Bergel Envoyé : mercredi 12 février 2014 15:50 À : Moose-related development Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Roassal Issue with Text Displaying Hi! I have spent a lot of time on trying to understand font, and many bugs are still there. I would indeed be happy to have help on this... Why trying to use Roassal2 instead? Your code will stay the same, but it will directly use Athens. Cheers, Alexandre On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Vincent Blondeau &lt;vincent.blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net <mailto:vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net>> wrote: Hello everyone, Under the latest version of Moose, I am confronted to some problems of text displaying with Roassal. The text letters are not in the same font.. A first example : <dfcbaide.png> A second example : <cagichjd.png> And if I zoom in or out, the text is correctly displayed... <ceciibjj.png> That's strange.. I am on Ubuntu x64 and I have the same issue on W7. 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