New subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

24 Jul 2013

Hi,

On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, "Dale K. Henrichs"
&lt;dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com&gt; wrote:

...
  Stef,

 I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello does so I don't
have an informed opinion ... the fact that you found a need to invent SnapshotCello does
speak volumes to the fact that there is a need that is going unmet:). 
What is not clear? I would be interested in describing our scenario in more details
because I think this is a development pattern. But, I need some concrete questions to
start from.

...
  However, I don't like the fact that you end up
sending a non-spec message to make this work (#populateSpec:with:). Tools like Versioner
will not be able to rewrite a method like this correctly so it is a less than satisfactory
workaround to the method literal limit. 
I still do not understand why Versionner would be affected by the current versions given
that we are only generating versions that should be immutable hence no need for
management.

...
  With that said it _is_ performing a useful function
...

 I have recently come up with an approach to addressing the method literal limit from a
slightly different angle and I would assume that SnapshotCello could be recast to use this
"approved approach" when the new techinique becomes available. At that time it
would make sense to roll the SnapshotCello funtionality into the MetacelloToolBox...

Having a different way to store the information should be no problem. I am curious about
your ideas.

Cheers,
Doru

...
  Dale

 [1] http://forum.world.st/Loading-problem-in-Seaside-tp4699965p4700161.html
 ----- Original Message -----
 | From: "Stéphane Ducasse" &lt;stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr&gt;
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 | Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:17:50 PM
 | Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello
 | 
 | Nice to see SnapshotCello coming to live. May be it should be
 | integrated to Metacello.
 | Because everybody may need this cool feature.
 | 
 | Stef
 | 
 | On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba &lt;tudor(a)tudorgirba.com&gt;
 | wrote:
 | 
 | > Hi,
 | > 
 | > Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables
 | > you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on what is
 | > already loaded in your current image.
 | > 
 | > The idea is simple. You develop against the latest versions of all
 | > packages, and commit your changes for each package. When you are
 | > ready for a release, you assemble your image, and generate a
 | > snapshot version that can be reloaded later.
 | > 
 | > Here is an example of how it can work to take a snapshot of a
 | > development version:
 | > Snapshotcello new
 | >     configurationClass: ConfigurationOfMoose;
 | >     configurationVersion: #development;
 | >     publishVersion: '4.8-snapshot'
 | > 
 | > You can find more details here:
 | > http://www.tudorgirba.com/blog/snapshotcello-take-a-snapshot-when-you-re-re…
 | > 
 | > You can get the code at:
 | > Gofer new
 | >     smalltalkhubUser: 'girba' project: 'Snapshotcello';
 | >     package: 'ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello';
 | >     load.
 | > (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello)
 | > loadDevelopment
 | > 
 | > Cheers,
 | > Doru
 | > 
 | > --
 | > www.tudorgirba.com
 | > 
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 | > 
 | > 
 | > 
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Re: [Pharo-users] Re: [ann] snapshotcello