Hi, The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work). On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier? I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes. I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Hi, On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <leo.perard(a)gmail.com> wrote: Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working. In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations. Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working? Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Thanks. It should work now. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <leo.perard(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Hello, Thanks Doru ! That’s nice that is now CTRL as shortcut modifier and I know that was not an easy task ! But there is still some bugs :( CTRL +M doesn’t work but ALT + M do And the double click doesn’t select the word :( Thanks for solving :) Cheers, Vincent De : moose-dev-bounces(a)iam.unibe.ch [mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch] De la part de Leo Perard Envoyé : mercredi 2 juillet 2014 15:24 À : Moose-related development Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Playground and Shortcuts Yes it is ok thanks. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Thanks. It should work now. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <leo.perard@gmail.com<mailto:leo.perard@gmail.com>> wrote: Alt+x is not working in the Playground. The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <leo.perard@gmail.com<mailto:leo.perard@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Hi, The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work). On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier? It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m). In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working. I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes. Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one. But this is just my point of view so I don't know. In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations. Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working? Doru I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it. The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :( Doru On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <leo.perard@gmail.com<mailto:leo.perard@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground. I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground. But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working. The list of those that do not work: Alt+a Alt+i Alt+d Alt+c Alt+x Alt+v maybe others but I didn't check them all. 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De : moose-dev-bounces(a)iam.unibe.ch [mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch] De la part de Tudor Girba Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2014 13:05 À : Moose-related development Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Playground and Shortcuts Hi Vincent, On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com<mailto:vincent.blondeau@worldline.com>> wrote: Hello, Thanks Doru ! That’s nice that is now CTRL as shortcut modifier and I know that was not an easy task ! But there is still some bugs :( CTRL +M doesn’t work but ALT + M do Ctrl+m does not work on Windows at all (you can try in Nautilus, too). I do not know where the issue comes from, and in fact this was the main reason why we decided to support Alt bindings :). I am still looking for the problem and let you know if this will work. Ok. Because for now even ALT+M doesn’t work… And the double click doesn’t select the word :( This one I do not quite get. Stef seemed to have had the same issue, but I cannot reproduce it either on Mac or on Windows. On both platforms real double clicking should select (word, paragraph, comment etc). Indeed, what does not work is click-longerpause-click. This works in the PluggableTextMorph, but not in Rubric. Could we spend a bit of time tracking this down? What exactly do you do? Yes I can :) I write sth in the workspace or in the inspector OrderedCollection new And when I double click (click-click ) nothing happens. I am under W7. Cheers, Vincent Cheers, Doru Thanks for solving :) Cheers, Vincent De : moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch<mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch> [mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch<mailto:moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch>] De la part de Leo Perard Envoyé : mercredi 2 juillet 2014 15:24 À : Moose-related development Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Playground and Shortcuts Yes it is ok thanks. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Thanks. It should work now. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <leo.perard@gmail.com<mailto:leo.perard@gmail.com>> wrote: Alt+x is not working in the Playground. The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <leo.perard@gmail.com<mailto:leo.perard@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Hi, The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work). On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier? It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m). In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working. I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes. Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one. But this is just my point of view so I don't know. In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations. Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working? Doru I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com<mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it. The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :( Doru On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <leo.perard@gmail.com<mailto:leo.perard@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground. I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground. But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working. The list of those that do not work: Alt+a Alt+i Alt+d Alt+c Alt+x Alt+v maybe others but I didn't check them all. 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