hi Doru what is the first version of moose the old that was completely BSD? I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code with funny license in moose. I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the situation and the attitude of adrian. So if he wants to play alone and build a great system perfect. Now as a community we should react and I start to be really pissed off by such a childish atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other people what can I say. I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will really do a campaign against moose and the foundation and all the shit around. First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO DO Stef _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and would like to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a little bit less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory talk in ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time). I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem. cheers, Toon On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote: > From: Orla Greevy <greevy(a)iam.unibe.ch&gt; > To: Related to the development of Moose and other related tools > <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch&gt; > Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose without Meta? > Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100 > > Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members, > > Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I would like to > know exactly what is going on with Moose. > I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it would be > good if > we sit together and identify what the problems are and we solve them. > > Cheers, > Orla > > On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > >> hi Doru >> >> what is the first version of moose the old that was completely BSD? >> I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code with >> funny license in moose. >> I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the situation and >> the attitude of adrian. >> So if he wants to play alone and build a great system perfect. >> Now as a community we should react and I start to be really pissed >> off by such a childish >> atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other people >> what can I say. >> >> I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will really do >> a campaign against moose >> and the foundation and all the shit around. >> >> First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY HAVE >> SOMETHING ELSE TO DO >> >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi Stef, Please keep these emails on moose(a)iam.unibe.ch at the moment, as it is the job of the Board to settle it. Cheers, Doru On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > sorry for shouting and putting the mess. Here is my analysis of my > idiot behavior > So do not hesitate to send my stones. I think that there is > something to consider > our communication medium is email (at least for the people outisde > of bern) and > sometimes the communication is noisy. > > > doru > > I think that I over reacted about the license. So may be I was > stupid but may be this is also that the situation was really not > clear. I'm trying to understand why I was so touched by the topic > (beside been burnt by squeak over the last 4 years). > > Here are some points: > - fuzzy discussion on moose-dev > - I was not aware that there is a moose and moose-dev I thought > that moose was deprecated > else I would have shout there :) > - web site with a lot of unclear licenses (so may be this one could > be fixed first) > - GPL discussion in addition to creativecommons to BSD. > - Not clear statement from an outsider about what were the parts > touched by what. (may be this was said > and I did not understand it as it should have). > > I think that we should have a clear statement and position to solve > that for the future. > Here is a draft of the moose license that we could ask people to > sign. Once you have the missing information, then I could ask the > past moosers > to sign it: sara, pierrick, hani, mathieu, damien and me. > > > <MooseLicenseAgreement.doc> > > > Stef > > > > > On 25 nov. 07, at 16:32, Toon Verwaest wrote: > >> Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and would like >> to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a little bit >> less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory talk in >> ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time). >> >> I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem. >> >> cheers, >> Toon >> >> On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote: >>> From: Orla Greevy <greevy(a)iam.unibe.ch&gt; >>> To: Related to the development of Moose and other related tools >>> <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> >>> Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose without Meta? >>> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100 >>> >>> Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members, >>> >>> Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I would >>> like to >>> know exactly what is going on with Moose. >>> I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it would be >>> good if >>> we sit together and identify what the problems are and we solve >>> them. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Orla >>> >>> On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> hi Doru >>>> >>>> what is the first version of moose the old that was completely >>>> BSD? >>>> I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code with >>>> funny license in moose. >>>> I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the situation and >>>> the attitude of adrian. >>>> So if he wants to play alone and build a great system perfect. >>>> Now as a community we should react and I start to be really pissed >>>> off by such a childish >>>> atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other people >>>> what can I say. >>>> >>>> I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will really >>>> do >>>> a campaign against moose >>>> and the foundation and all the shit around. >>>> >>>> First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY HAVE >>>> SOMETHING ELSE TO DO >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Is there a possibility for me to join this list? Or is it board only? I believe this concerns me too, at least... Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Stef, > > Please keep these emails on moose(a)iam.unibe.ch at the moment, as > it is > the job of the Board to settle it. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > >> sorry for shouting and putting the mess. Here is my analysis of my >> idiot behavior >> So do not hesitate to send my stones. I think that there is >> something to consider >> our communication medium is email (at least for the people outisde >> of bern) and >> sometimes the communication is noisy. >> >> >> doru >> >> I think that I over reacted about the license. So may be I was >> stupid but may be this is also that the situation was really not >> clear. I'm trying to understand why I was so touched by the topic >> (beside been burnt by squeak over the last 4 years). >> >> Here are some points: >> - fuzzy discussion on moose-dev >> - I was not aware that there is a moose and moose-dev I thought >> that moose was deprecated >> else I would have shout there :) >> - web site with a lot of unclear licenses (so may be this one could >> be fixed first) >> - GPL discussion in addition to creativecommons to BSD. >> - Not clear statement from an outsider about what were the parts >> touched by what. (may be this was said >> and I did not understand it as it should have). >> >> I think that we should have a clear statement and position to solve >> that for the future. >> Here is a draft of the moose license that we could ask people to >> sign. Once you have the missing information, then I could ask the >> past moosers >> to sign it: sara, pierrick, hani, mathieu, damien and me. >> >> >> <MooseLicenseAgreement.doc> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> On 25 nov. 07, at 16:32, Toon Verwaest wrote: >> >> >>> Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and would >>> like >>> to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a little >>> bit >>> less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory talk in >>> ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time). >>> >>> I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem. >>> >>> cheers, >>> Toon >>> >>> On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote: >>> >>>> From: Orla Greevy <greevy(a)iam.unibe.ch&gt; >>>> To: Related to the development of Moose and other related tools >>>> <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> >>>> Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose without Meta? >>>> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100 >>>> >>>> Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members, >>>> >>>> Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I would >>>> like to >>>> know exactly what is going on with Moose. >>>> I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it would be >>>> good if >>>> we sit together and identify what the problems are and we solve >>>> them. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Orla >>>> >>>> On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> hi Doru >>>>> >>>>> what is the first version of moose the old that was completely >>>>> BSD? >>>>> I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code with >>>>> funny license in moose. >>>>> I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the situation >>>>> and >>>>> the attitude of adrian. >>>>> So if he wants to play alone and build a great system perfect. >>>>> Now as a community we should react and I start to be really >>>>> pissed >>>>> off by such a childish >>>>> atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other people >>>>> what can I say. >>>>> >>>>> I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will really >>>>> do >>>>> a campaign against moose >>>>> and the foundation and all the shit around. >>>>> >>>>> First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY HAVE >>>>> SOMETHING ELSE TO DO >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.tudorgirba.com/blog > > "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

no, the board list is for the board.. at least that is the point of having a board. If I'm on the wrong page, then I'll just call myself out of all this, because it starts to get annoying. Honestly, there is a moose-dev list, which is for people to talk about DEVelopment issues, and there is a moose board list, on which the elected board members are supposed to talk (in civilized terms).

Please let's keep these things separate.. Michele http://humanities.byu.edu/elc/student/idioms/proverbs/cooks_spoil.html On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:08 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I imagine and yes you are welcome. > > stef > > On 27 nov. 07, at 01:52, Toon Verwaest wrote: > >> Is there a possibility for me to join this list? Or is it board >> only? I >> believe this concerns me too, at least... >> >> Tudor Girba wrote: >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> Please keep these emails on moose(a)iam.unibe.ch at the moment, as >>> it is >>> the job of the Board to settle it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>> >>>> sorry for shouting and putting the mess. Here is my analysis of my >>>> idiot behavior >>>> So do not hesitate to send my stones. I think that there is >>>> something to consider >>>> our communication medium is email (at least for the people outisde >>>> of bern) and >>>> sometimes the communication is noisy. >>>> >>>> >>>> doru >>>> >>>> I think that I over reacted about the license. So may be I was >>>> stupid but may be this is also that the situation was really not >>>> clear. I'm trying to understand why I was so touched by the topic >>>> (beside been burnt by squeak over the last 4 years). >>>> >>>> Here are some points: >>>> - fuzzy discussion on moose-dev >>>> - I was not aware that there is a moose and moose-dev I thought >>>> that moose was deprecated >>>> else I would have shout there :) >>>> - web site with a lot of unclear licenses (so may be this one >>>> could >>>> be fixed first) >>>> - GPL discussion in addition to creativecommons to BSD. >>>> - Not clear statement from an outsider about what were the parts >>>> touched by what. (may be this was said >>>> and I did not understand it as it should have). >>>> >>>> I think that we should have a clear statement and position to >>>> solve >>>> that for the future. >>>> Here is a draft of the moose license that we could ask people to >>>> sign. Once you have the missing information, then I could ask the >>>> past moosers >>>> to sign it: sara, pierrick, hani, mathieu, damien and me. >>>> >>>> >>>> <MooseLicenseAgreement.doc> >>>> >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25 nov. 07, at 16:32, Toon Verwaest wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and would >>>>> like >>>>> to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a little >>>>> bit >>>>> less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory >>>>> talk in >>>>> ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time). >>>>> >>>>> I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> Toon >>>>> >>>>> On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Orla Greevy <greevy(a)iam.unibe.ch&gt; >>>>>> To: Related to the development of Moose and other related tools >>>>>> <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose without >>>>>> Meta? >>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I would >>>>>> like to >>>>>> know exactly what is going on with Moose. >>>>>> I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it would be >>>>>> good if >>>>>> we sit together and identify what the problems are and we solve >>>>>> them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Orla >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> hi Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what is the first version of moose the old that was completely >>>>>>> BSD? >>>>>>> I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> funny license in moose. >>>>>>> I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the situation >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the attitude of adrian. >>>>>>> So if he wants to play alone and build a great system perfect. >>>>>>> Now as a community we should react and I start to be really >>>>>>> pissed >>>>>>> off by such a childish >>>>>>> atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> what can I say. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will >>>>>>> really >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> a campaign against moose >>>>>>> and the foundation and all the shit around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY >>>>>>> HAVE >>>>>>> SOMETHING ELSE TO DO >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.tudorgirba.com/blog >>> >>> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi, moose(a)iam.unibe.ch is the mailing for the Moose Association Executive Board and it should remain like that :). Cheers, Doru On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > ok it was not clear to me that moose was for the board. I thought > that moose was for the association. > > Stef > > On 27 nov. 07, at 11:23, Michele Lanza wrote: > >> no, the board list is for the board.. at least that is the point of >> having a board. If I'm on the wrong page, then I'll just call myself >> out of all this, because it starts to get annoying. Honestly, there >> is a moose-dev list, which is for people to talk about DEVelopment >> issues, and there is a moose board list, on which the elected board >> members are supposed to talk (in civilized terms). > > thanks for the pun. > >> Please let's keep >> these things separate.. >> >> Michele >> >> http://humanities.byu.edu/elc/student/idioms/proverbs/ >> cooks_spoil.html >> >> On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:08 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> I imagine and yes you are welcome. >>> >>> stef >>> >>> On 27 nov. 07, at 01:52, Toon Verwaest wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a possibility for me to join this list? Or is it board >>>> only? I >>>> believe this concerns me too, at least... >>>> >>>> Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>> >>>>> Please keep these emails on moose(a)iam.unibe.ch at the moment, as >>>>> it is >>>>> the job of the Board to settle it. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> sorry for shouting and putting the mess. Here is my analysis of >>>>>> my >>>>>> idiot behavior >>>>>> So do not hesitate to send my stones. I think that there is >>>>>> something to consider >>>>>> our communication medium is email (at least for the people >>>>>> outisde >>>>>> of bern) and >>>>>> sometimes the communication is noisy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> doru >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that I over reacted about the license. So may be I was >>>>>> stupid but may be this is also that the situation was really not >>>>>> clear. I'm trying to understand why I was so touched by the >>>>>> topic >>>>>> (beside been burnt by squeak over the last 4 years). >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are some points: >>>>>> - fuzzy discussion on moose-dev >>>>>> - I was not aware that there is a moose and moose-dev I thought >>>>>> that moose was deprecated >>>>>> else I would have shout there :) >>>>>> - web site with a lot of unclear licenses (so may be this one >>>>>> could >>>>>> be fixed first) >>>>>> - GPL discussion in addition to creativecommons to BSD. >>>>>> - Not clear statement from an outsider about what were the >>>>>> parts >>>>>> touched by what. (may be this was said >>>>>> and I did not understand it as it should have). >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that we should have a clear statement and position to >>>>>> solve >>>>>> that for the future. >>>>>> Here is a draft of the moose license that we could ask people to >>>>>> sign. Once you have the missing information, then I could ask >>>>>> the >>>>>> past moosers >>>>>> to sign it: sara, pierrick, hani, mathieu, damien and me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <MooseLicenseAgreement.doc> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 25 nov. 07, at 16:32, Toon Verwaest wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and would >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> bit >>>>>>> less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory >>>>>>> talk in >>>>>>> ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>> Toon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Orla Greevy <greevy(a)iam.unibe.ch&gt; >>>>>>>> To: Related to the development of Moose and other related >>>>>>>> tools >>>>>>>> <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose without >>>>>>>> Meta? >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I would >>>>>>>> like to >>>>>>>> know exactly what is going on with Moose. >>>>>>>> I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it would be >>>>>>>> good if >>>>>>>> we sit together and identify what the problems are and we >>>>>>>> solve >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Orla >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi Doru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what is the first version of moose the old that was >>>>>>>>> completely >>>>>>>>> BSD? >>>>>>>>> I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> funny license in moose. >>>>>>>>> I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the >>>>>>>>> situation >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> the attitude of adrian. >>>>>>>>> So if he wants to play alone and build a great system >>>>>>>>> perfect. >>>>>>>>> Now as a community we should react and I start to be really >>>>>>>>> pissed >>>>>>>>> off by such a childish >>>>>>>>> atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> what can I say. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will >>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> a campaign against moose >>>>>>>>> and the foundation and all the shit around. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY >>>>>>>>> HAVE >>>>>>>>> SOMETHING ELSE TO DO >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com/blog >>>>> >>>>> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev