Hi Folks,
Please make two new mailing lists called moose-board and moose-assoc.
The email moose(a)iam.unibe.ch is not a good one, as it is absolutely
not clear what it is for.
At best it should be a user account and not a mailing list.
- on
On Nov 27, 2007, at 15:51, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
moose(a)iam.unibe.ch is the mailing for the Moose Association Executive
Board and it should remain like that :).
Cheers,
Doru
On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> ok it was not clear to me that moose was for the board. I thought
> that moose was for the association.
>
> Stef
>
> On 27 nov. 07, at 11:23, Michele Lanza wrote:
>
>> no, the board list is for the board.. at least that is the point of
>> having a board. If I'm on the wrong page, then I'll just call myself
>> out of all this, because it starts to get annoying. Honestly, there
>> is a moose-dev list, which is for people to talk about DEVelopment
>> issues, and there is a moose board list, on which the elected board
>> members are supposed to talk (in civilized terms).
>
> thanks for the pun.
>
>> Please let's keep
>> these things separate..
>>
>> Michele
>>
>>
http://humanities.byu.edu/elc/student/idioms/proverbs/
>> cooks_spoil.html
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:08 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> I imagine and yes you are welcome.
>>>
>>> stef
>>>
>>> On 27 nov. 07, at 01:52, Toon Verwaest wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a possibility for me to join this list? Or is it board
>>>> only? I
>>>> believe this concerns me too, at least...
>>>>
>>>> Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>> Hi Stef,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please keep these emails on moose(a)iam.unibe.ch at the moment, as
>>>>> it is
>>>>> the job of the Board to settle it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry for shouting and putting the mess. Here is my analysis of
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> idiot behavior
>>>>>> So do not hesitate to send my stones. I think that there is
>>>>>> something to consider
>>>>>> our communication medium is email (at least for the people
>>>>>> outisde
>>>>>> of bern) and
>>>>>> sometimes the communication is noisy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that I over reacted about the license. So may be I was
>>>>>> stupid but may be this is also that the situation was really not
>>>>>> clear. I'm trying to understand why I was so touched by the
>>>>>> topic
>>>>>> (beside been burnt by squeak over the last 4 years).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are some points:
>>>>>> - fuzzy discussion on moose-dev
>>>>>> - I was not aware that there is a moose and moose-dev I thought
>>>>>> that moose was deprecated
>>>>>> else I would have shout there :)
>>>>>> - web site with a lot of unclear licenses (so may be this one
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be fixed first)
>>>>>> - GPL discussion in addition to creativecommons to BSD.
>>>>>> - Not clear statement from an outsider about what were the
>>>>>> parts
>>>>>> touched by what. (may be this was said
>>>>>> and I did not understand it as it should have).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that we should have a clear statement and position to
>>>>>> solve
>>>>>> that for the future.
>>>>>> Here is a draft of the moose license that we could ask people to
>>>>>> sign. Once you have the missing information, then I could ask
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> past moosers
>>>>>> to sign it: sara, pierrick, hani, mathieu, damien and me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <MooseLicenseAgreement.doc>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 nov. 07, at 16:32, Toon Verwaest wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and
would
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>> less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory
>>>>>>> talk in
>>>>>>> ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Toon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Orla Greevy <greevy(a)iam.unibe.ch>
>>>>>>>> To: Related to the development of Moose and other related
>>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>> <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose
without
>>>>>>>> Meta?
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I
would
>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>> know exactly what is going on with Moose.
>>>>>>>> I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it
would be
>>>>>>>> good if
>>>>>>>> we sit together and identify what the problems are and we
>>>>>>>> solve
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Orla
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hi Doru
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what is the first version of moose the old that was
>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>> BSD?
>>>>>>>>> I want to know the price that I have to pay not to
have code
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> funny license in moose.
>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by
the
>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the attitude of adrian.
>>>>>>>>> So if he wants to play alone and build a great system
>>>>>>>>> perfect.
>>>>>>>>> Now as a community we should react and I start to be
really
>>>>>>>>> pissed
>>>>>>>>> off by such a childish
>>>>>>>>> atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect
other
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> what can I say.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I
will
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> a campaign against moose
>>>>>>>>> and the foundation and all the shit around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First I decided that I will quit the board because I
REALLY
>>>>>>>>> HAVE
>>>>>>>>> SOMETHING ELSE TO DO
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>
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