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Simon Denier

13 Aug 2010 13 Aug '10

4:58 p.m.

Hi Doru I would like to know what is the status of the Glamour-Seadide renderer? Is there some progress on this side? -- Simon

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Tudor Girba

13 Aug 13 Aug

5:35 p.m.

Hi, Yes, Andrei Chis is doing a very good job on this and there is quite a bit of progress. I guess that it will get demo-able in a 1-2 weeks. Andrei, am I right? :) Cheers, Doru On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:58, Simon Denier wrote:

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Hi Doru I would like to know what is the status of the Glamour-Seadide renderer? Is there some progress on this side? -- Simon _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Andrei Vasile Chis

10:17 p.m.

Hi all, Within two weeks top demos will be available :) Andrei On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I would like to know what is the status of the Glamour-Seadide renderer? Is there some progress on this side? -- Simon _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Johan Fabry

10:52 p.m.

Now it would be extra-cool if this would play well together with Mondrian. Does Mondrian do SVG ? Maybe I could have AspectMaps running in a web browser ... On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote:

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Hi all, Within two weeks top demos will be available :) Andrei On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Yes, Andrei Chis is doing a very good job on this and there is quite a bit of progress. I guess that it will get demo-able in a 1-2 weeks. Andrei, am I right? :) Cheers, Doru On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:58, Simon Denier wrote: Hi Doru I would like to know what is the status of the Glamour-Seadide renderer? Is there some progress on this side? -- Simon _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem understanding." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Alexandre Bergel

11:56 p.m.

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Now it would be extra-cool if this would play well together with Mondrian. Does Mondrian do SVG ? Maybe I could have AspectMaps running in a web browser ...

Currently Mondrian does not do svg. However, it can produce a .png. I guess seaside can use it. Alexandre

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On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote:

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Tudor Girba

11:57 p.m.

Hi Johan, There is some support for Mondrian done by Lukas. The visualization is presented as a picture and clicking interaction is translated back as a Mondrian event. But, SVG is on the roadmap, although probably not for the top demos in two weeks :) Cheers, Doru On 13 Aug 2010, at 23:56, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

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Now it would be extra-cool if this would play well together with Mondrian. Does Mondrian do SVG ? Maybe I could have AspectMaps running in a web browser ...

Currently Mondrian does not do svg. However, it can produce a .png. I guess seaside can use it. Alexandre

On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote:

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Alexandre Bergel

14 Aug 14 Aug

12:08 a.m.

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There is some support for Mondrian done by Lukas. The visualization is presented as a picture and clicking interaction is translated back as a Mondrian event.

I was not aware of this. What was the case study ?

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But, SVG is on the roadmap, although probably not for the top demos in two weeks :)

Yes. I plan to produce a lower level API in which Rome and other canvas can be easily plugged. However, I do not have concrete plan yet. Alexandre

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Cheers, Doru On 13 Aug 2010, at 23:56, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

Now it would be extra-cool if this would play well together with Mondrian. Does Mondrian do SVG ? Maybe I could have AspectMaps running in a web browser ...

Currently Mondrian does not do svg. However, it can produce a .png. I guess seaside can use it. Alexandre

On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote:

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Tudor Girba

12:10 a.m.

Hi,

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There is some support for Mondrian done by Lukas. The visualization is presented as a picture and clicking interaction is translated back as a Mondrian event.

I was not aware of this. What was the case study ?

What do you mean? This is a simulation of a canvas on the web that is used in Glamour- Seaside. Doru

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But, SVG is on the roadmap, although probably not for the top demos in two weeks :)

Yes. I plan to produce a lower level API in which Rome and other canvas can be easily plugged. However, I do not have concrete plan yet. Alexandre

Cheers, Doru On 13 Aug 2010, at 23:56, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

Now it would be extra-cool if this would play well together with Mondrian. Does Mondrian do SVG ? Maybe I could have AspectMaps running in a web browser ...

Currently Mondrian does not do svg. However, it can produce a .png. I guess seaside can use it. Alexandre

On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote: > Hi all, > > Within two weeks top demos will be available :) > > Andrei > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, Andrei Chis is doing a very good job on this and there is > quite a bit of progress. I guess that it will get demo-able in a > 1-2 weeks. > > Andrei, am I right? :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:58, Simon Denier wrote: > > Hi Doru > > I would like to know what is the status of the Glamour-Seadide > renderer? Is there some progress on this side? > > -- > Simon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of > problem understanding." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Alexandre Bergel

12:17 a.m.

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I was not aware of this. What was the case study ?

What do you mean?

Is there an example I can see somewhere? just curious Alexandre

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But, SVG is on the roadmap, although probably not for the top demos in two weeks :)

Yes. I plan to produce a lower level API in which Rome and other canvas can be easily plugged. However, I do not have concrete plan yet. Alexandre

Cheers, Doru On 13 Aug 2010, at 23:56, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Now it would be extra-cool if this would play well together with Mondrian. Does Mondrian do SVG ? Maybe I could have AspectMaps running in a web browser ... Currently Mondrian does not do svg. However, it can produce a .png. I guess seaside can use it. Alexandre > > On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Within two weeks top demos will be available :) >> >> Andrei >> >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Yes, Andrei Chis is doing a very good job on this and there is quite a bit of progress. I guess that it will get demo-able in a 1-2 weeks. >> >> Andrei, am I right? :) >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:58, Simon Denier wrote: >> >> Hi Doru >> >> I would like to know what is the status of the Glamour-Seadide renderer? Is there some progress on this side? >> >> -- >> Simon >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem understanding." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Andrei Vasile Chis

12:35 a.m.

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I was not aware of this. What was the case study ?

What do you mean?

Is there an example I can see somewhere? just curious

Yes there is:) Install the latest version of Glamour-Seaside Gofer new squeaksource: 'Glamour'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamourSeaside'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamourSeaside) perform: #loadDefault. start Seaside ( WAKom startOn: 8081), point you browser to http://localhost:8081/glamour/code the select the "Mondrian" tab(if you click on a class its methods will be showed in the right panel). Let me know if you run into any trouble. Andrei

Alexandre Bergel

16 Aug 16 Aug

8:26 p.m.

Neat!!! It works well! Cheers, Alexandre On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:35, Andrei Vasile Chis wrote:

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I was not aware of this. What was the case study ?

What do you mean?

Is there an example I can see somewhere? just curious Yes there is:) Install the latest version of Glamour-Seaside Gofer new squeaksource: 'Glamour'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamourSeaside'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamourSeaside) perform: #loadDefault. start Seaside ( WAKom startOn: 8081), point you browser to http://localhost:8081/glamour/code the select the "Mondrian" tab(if you click on a class its methods will be showed in the right panel). Let me know if you run into any trouble. Andrei _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Stéphane Ducasse

15 Aug 15 Aug

2:07 p.m.

cool! We want to see that! On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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