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Tudor Girba

16 Feb 2016 16 Feb '16

11:02 p.m.

Hi, I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/ Please let us know what you think. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"

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Hernán Morales Durand

16 Feb 16 Feb

11:14 p.m.

Hi Tudor, Thanks for the detailed article. I don't use Spotter (yet) but for the GTDebugger I want to say that buttons in the right upper corner makes me feel uncomfortable... in part because I am very used to buttons at the middle, and part because debugger operations are central to the debugger and should be bigger or more visible. Is this button bar fixed in GTDebugger? Can be changed with preference? Hernán 2016-02-16 19:02 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>om>:

Hi, I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/ Please let us know what you think. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

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Damien Cassou

17 Feb 17 Feb

2:15 p.m.

New subject: [Pharo-users] gtoolkit 3.10 overview

Hi Tudor, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> writes:

I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/

thank you for the detailed changelog. Please pay attention to the Settings system. I have the impression that what you did might forbid you to remove any extension in the future. What I see happening is that: 1. people start deactivating some extensions through the Settings 2. they write their Settings in a file so the settings are available for all images 3. in this file, settings are deactivated with Smalltalk code that send setting-specific messages to specific objects 4. you decide to remove an extension and remove the corresponding setting method 5. the user downloads the new Pharo and gets an error because his setting file sends messages that are not understood anymore. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

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Tudor Girba

3:05 p.m.

New subject: [Pharo-users] gtoolkit 3.10 overview

Hi, Indeed, the settings sending unknown messages is a problem, but that is a problem that is not related to Spotter. If you get it with Spotter settings, you will get it with all other settings as well. The settings mechanism should be more robust in my opinion. Cheers, Doru

On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> wrote: Hi Tudor, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> writes:

I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/

thank you for the detailed changelog. Please pay attention to the Settings system. I have the impression that what you did might forbid you to remove any extension in the future. What I see happening is that: 1. people start deactivating some extensions through the Settings 2. they write their Settings in a file so the settings are available for all images 3. in this file, settings are deactivated with Smalltalk code that send setting-specific messages to specific objects 4. you decide to remove an extension and remove the corresponding setting method 5. the user downloads the new Pharo and gets an error because his setting file sends messages that are not understood anymore. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Value is always contextual."

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stepharo

27 Feb 27 Feb

10:43 a.m.

New subject: [Pharo-users] gtoolkit 3.10 overview

Le 17/2/16 15:04, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Hi, Indeed, the settings sending unknown messages is a problem, but that is a problem that is not related to Spotter. If you get it with Spotter settings, you will get it with all other settings as well. The settings mechanism should be more robust in my opinion.

it should probably be moved to use ston for serialisation.

Cheers, Doru

On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> wrote: Hi Tudor, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> writes:

I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/

thank you for the detailed changelog. Please pay attention to the Settings system. I have the impression that what you did might forbid you to remove any extension in the future. What I see happening is that: 1. people start deactivating some extensions through the Settings 2. they write their Settings in a file so the settings are available for all images 3. in this file, settings are deactivated with Smalltalk code that send setting-specific messages to specific objects 4. you decide to remove an extension and remove the corresponding setting method 5. the user downloads the new Pharo and gets an error because his setting file sends messages that are not understood anymore. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Value is always contextual." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

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Alexandre Bergel

17 Feb 17 Feb

2:40 p.m.

New subject: [Pharo-dev] gtoolkit 3.10 overview

Pretty cool! Alexandre

On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi, I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/ Please let us know what you think. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"

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Alexandre Bergel
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