28 Jun
2012
28 Jun
'12
2:19 p.m.
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers
This mail is really important so read it carefully. Especially the last part of the mail
is important for the
immediate future: we need your support and input. Read section ***Support*** at the end of
this mail.
Context
=======
After taking into account feedback from companies and pharo users in different occasions
and
discussing with the INRIA lawyers and the team in charge of the administrative aspect of
the consoritum
here is the setup we finally want for the consortium. We will have two separated entities:
- one french law 1901 association for individuals and
- one consortium for institutions (companies, research groups, laboratories,
universities...) managed by INRIA
We hope that in the long run the consortium will be fully managed by the association
but in the current bootstrap phase INRIA is a good solution.
==============
The Pharo Association
==============
The goal of the association is to promote Pharo. It will have its own web site.
Individual Memberships (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
There are two individual memberships
- Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 40 Euros
- Golden Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 99 Euros
You will get
a nice goody,
reduction access to conferences,
reduction for training and access to teaching material,
be part of the pharo groups on social networks,
be part of the pharoAssociation-individual-members mailing-list,
get access and registered to the pharo association web site.
Others (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
The association will be able to issues bills so you will be able to buy a Pharo
distribution
when your organization cannot be a member, a sponsor or doing a donation to the Pharo
consortium.
End of Pharo Association Description
===========================
The Pharo Consortium (managed by INRIA)
===========================
The goal of the consortium is to structure and build an umbrella to foster business around
Pharo and to promote Pharo.
A company, user group, research group, team or institution can be a consortium member, not
individual member.
There are three levels of fees and corresponding benefits. You decide your degree of
support.
The annual fees are
- Bronze 1000 Euros
- Silver 2000 Euros
- Gold 4000 Euros
Consortium members main advantages are
----------------------------------------
Non individual members of the consortium get the following advantages:
- privileged access to the core development team via a specific mailing-list
pharo-core-team-for-members(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr
- influence priorities of the next development. The member will be able to propose
agenda points and items for the executive team. They will be requested one month in
advance before the committee meeting.
- get access to privileged core engineer time (to address pharo core problems)
- Bronze member gets
one day of engineering time
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Silver
+ two days of engineering time
+ one job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor..
- Gold four
+ 4 days of engineering time
+ multiple job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Training special prices and possibility to become pharo trainer
- Pharo consortium member can also ask and pay for extra support days at INRIA engineer
prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- Member can offer to their client access to the possibility to pay for extra support
days at INRIA engineer prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- The core team can provide contact with experts for certain areas of development.
Pharo Consortium Gouvernance: steering committee
----------------------------------------
The consortium will be managed as follows: There will be a steering committee and an
Executive Team.
* A steering committee is composed of one representative of each member (except
individuals).
* The chairman of this committee will be Inria
* Steering Committee Role :
- The Steering Committee follows the execution of the PHARO R&D Team
- It validates and gives input about the task list of the Executive Team.
- It can propose members of the executive team.
- It prepares, organizes conferences, seminars or other animations to promote PHARO and
have new members
- It revises the annual fee
* Decisions taking: after consultation and collect of representative member points of
views, Inria takes the final decision.
* The steering committee will communicate via a private mailing-list. It may meet
physical once a year.
* An agenda to reach conclusion will be established by Inria on proposals of the members
(the members will be queried a month in advance).
Technical Executive Committee (akaR&D task)
----------------------------------------
* The Executive Team is composed of members proposed by the steering board and RMOD
Team
* Its roles is to
* Study, analyze and validate external contributions for PHARO
* Report to the steering committee
* Present a task list to the steering committee.
* Propose, schedule and implement tasks in conformance with the tasks list.
* Coordinate the release Pharo and its VMs
Pharo consortium Sponsoring
---------------------------
Orthogonally to memberships, an entity can be a sponsor of the consortium without being
a pharo consortium member.
Pharo consortium are de factor platinium sponsor. Sponsors will get their logos name
exposed to the consortium web site.
There are two kinds of sponsors:
- normal 500 Euros
- diamond 1000 Euros
Job board
---------
Non consortium member companies will be able to pay a fee (1000 Euros) to post job
offers to the job board.
End of Pharo Consortium Description
=====================
*** Support and Answer needed***
=====================
To be able to pay an engineer by the consortium, INRIA needs to make projection, build
budget, pay attention to visa
and other important administrative tasks. To deal with the risk that the consortium may
not collect enough to pay a full salary
we are considering to ask INRIA to help us financially. To do so we have to give some
concrete figures to
INRIA and motivate our request. In addition, our team (RMOD) on its own budget will try to
compensate by allocating extra resources
However, this will be only a one shot. In addition, some of our team members have been
approached by google to work on chrome and dart
Virtual Machines. So if we really get a future we should build it now.
Many of you told us that they want to support the consortium, now we need to know what
would be amount of membership, sponsoring
you could give. So please read carefully this mail and send us a mail at
stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr with the same subject than this one.
We will collect the information and build a case to present to INRIA.
Thanks in advance for Pharo and for the future that we are building together.
The RMOD team and the Pharo board
28 Jun
28 Jun
7:38 p.m.
I can open a wiki page to maintain the list of consortium member I received.
Let me know if it makes sense to you.
Stef
On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers
This mail is really important so read it carefully. Especially the last part of the mail
is important for the
immediate future: we need your support and input. Read section ***Support*** at the end
of this mail.
Context
=======
After taking into account feedback from companies and pharo users in different occasions
and
discussing with the INRIA lawyers and the team in charge of the administrative aspect of
the consoritum
here is the setup we finally want for the consortium. We will have two separated
entities:
- one french law 1901 association for individuals and
- one consortium for institutions (companies, research groups, laboratories,
universities...) managed by INRIA
We hope that in the long run the consortium will be fully managed by the association
but in the current bootstrap phase INRIA is a good solution.
==============
The Pharo Association
==============
The goal of the association is to promote Pharo. It will have its own web site.
Individual Memberships (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
There are two individual memberships
- Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 40 Euros
- Golden Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 99 Euros
You will get
a nice goody,
reduction access to conferences,
reduction for training and access to teaching material,
be part of the pharo groups on social networks,
be part of the pharoAssociation-individual-members mailing-list,
get access and registered to the pharo association web site.
Others (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
The association will be able to issues bills so you will be able to buy a Pharo
distribution
when your organization cannot be a member, a sponsor or doing a donation to the Pharo
consortium.
End of Pharo Association Description
===========================
The Pharo Consortium (managed by INRIA)
===========================
The goal of the consortium is to structure and build an umbrella to foster business
around Pharo and to promote Pharo.
A company, user group, research group, team or institution can be a consortium member,
not individual member.
There are three levels of fees and corresponding benefits. You decide your degree of
support.
The annual fees are
- Bronze 1000 Euros
- Silver 2000 Euros
- Gold 4000 Euros
Consortium members main advantages are
----------------------------------------
Non individual members of the consortium get the following advantages:
- privileged access to the core development team via a specific mailing-list
pharo-core-team-for-members(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr
- influence priorities of the next development. The member will be able to propose
agenda points and items for the executive team. They will be requested one month in
advance before the committee meeting.
- get access to privileged core engineer time (to address pharo core problems)
- Bronze member gets
one day of engineering time
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Silver
+ two days of engineering time
+ one job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor..
- Gold four
+ 4 days of engineering time
+ multiple job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Training special prices and possibility to become pharo trainer
- Pharo consortium member can also ask and pay for extra support days at INRIA engineer
prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- Member can offer to their client access to the possibility to pay for extra support
days at INRIA engineer prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- The core team can provide contact with experts for certain areas of development.
Pharo Consortium Gouvernance: steering committee
----------------------------------------
The consortium will be managed as follows: There will be a steering committee and an
Executive Team.
* A steering committee is composed of one representative of each member (except
individuals).
* The chairman of this committee will be Inria
* Steering Committee Role :
- The Steering Committee follows the execution of the PHARO R&D Team
- It validates and gives input about the task list of the Executive Team.
- It can propose members of the executive team.
- It prepares, organizes conferences, seminars or other animations to promote PHARO
and have new members
- It revises the annual fee
* Decisions taking: after consultation and collect of representative member points of
views, Inria takes the final decision.
* The steering committee will communicate via a private mailing-list. It may meet
physical once a year.
* An agenda to reach conclusion will be established by Inria on proposals of the
members (the members will be queried a month in advance).
Technical Executive Committee (akaR&D task)
----------------------------------------
* The Executive Team is composed of members proposed by the steering board and RMOD
Team
* Its roles is to
* Study, analyze and validate external contributions for PHARO
* Report to the steering committee
* Present a task list to the steering committee.
* Propose, schedule and implement tasks in conformance with the tasks list.
* Coordinate the release Pharo and its VMs
Pharo consortium Sponsoring
---------------------------
Orthogonally to memberships, an entity can be a sponsor of the consortium without being
a pharo consortium member.
Pharo consortium are de factor platinium sponsor. Sponsors will get their logos name
exposed to the consortium web site.
There are two kinds of sponsors:
- normal 500 Euros
- diamond 1000 Euros
Job board
---------
Non consortium member companies will be able to pay a fee (1000 Euros) to post job
offers to the job board.
End of Pharo Consortium Description
=====================
*** Support and Answer needed***
=====================
To be able to pay an engineer by the consortium, INRIA needs to make projection, build
budget, pay attention to visa
and other important administrative tasks. To deal with the risk that the consortium may
not collect enough to pay a full salary
we are considering to ask INRIA to help us financially. To do so we have to give some
concrete figures to
INRIA and motivate our request. In addition, our team (RMOD) on its own budget will try
to compensate by allocating extra resources
However, this will be only a one shot. In addition, some of our team members have been
approached by google to work on chrome and dart
Virtual Machines. So if we really get a future we should build it now.
Many of you told us that they want to support the consortium, now we need to know what
would be amount of membership, sponsoring
you could give. So please read carefully this mail and send us a mail at
stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr with the same subject than this one.
We will collect the information and build a case to present to INRIA.
Thanks in advance for Pharo and for the future that we are building together.
The RMOD team and the Pharo board
7:43 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-users] **IMPORTANT** MUST READ: Pharo Association and Consortium
Hi Stef,
how do we subscribe to the consortium ?
Laurent Laffont
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:38 PM, stephane ducasse
<stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>wrote;wrote:
I can open a wiki page to maintain the list of
consortium member I
received.
Let me know if it makes sense to you.
Stef
On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers
This mail is really important so read it carefully. Especially the last
part of
the mail is important for the
immediate future: we need your support and input.
Read section
***Support*** at the end of this mail.
Context
=======
After taking into account feedback from companies and pharo users in
different
occasions and
discussing with the INRIA lawyers and the team in
charge of the
administrative aspect of the consoritum
here is the setup we finally want for the
consortium. We will have two
separated entities:
- one french law 1901 association for
individuals and
- one consortium for institutions (companies, research groups,
laboratories,
universities...) managed by INRIA
We hope that in the long run the consortium will be fully managed by the
association
but in the current bootstrap phase INRIA is a
good solution.
==============
The Pharo Association
==============
The goal of the association is to promote Pharo. It will have its own
web site.
Individual Memberships (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
There are two individual memberships
- Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 40 Euros
- Golden Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee
99 Euros
You will get
a nice goody,
reduction access to conferences,
reduction for training and access to teaching material,
be part of the pharo groups on social networks,
be part of the pharoAssociation-individual-members
mailing-list,
get access and registered to the
pharo association web
site.
Others (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
The association will be able to issues bills so you will be able
to buy a
Pharo distribution
when your organization cannot be a member,
a sponsor or doing a
donation to the Pharo consortium.
End of Pharo Association Description
===========================
The Pharo Consortium (managed by INRIA)
===========================
The goal of the consortium is to structure and build an umbrella to
foster
business around Pharo and to promote Pharo.
A company, user group, research group, team or institution can be a
consortium
member, not individual member.
There are three levels of fees and corresponding benefits. You decide
your degree
of support.
The annual fees are
- Bronze 1000 Euros
- Silver 2000 Euros
- Gold 4000 Euros
Consortium members main advantages are
----------------------------------------
Non individual members of the consortium get the following
advantages:
- privileged access to the core development team via a
specific
mailing-list
pharo-core-team-for-members(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr
- influence priorities of the next development. The member
will be
able to propose
agenda points and items for the
executive team. They will
be requested one month in
advance before the committee
meeting.
- get access to privileged core engineer time (to address
pharo core
problems)
- Bronze member gets
one day of engineering time
+ is automatically a diamond
sponsor.
- Silver
+ two days of engineering time
+ one job description for job
dashboard
+ is
automatically a diamond
sponsor..
- Gold four
+ 4 days of engineering time
+ multiple job description for job
dashboard
+ is
automatically a diamond
sponsor.
- Training special prices and possibility to become pharo
trainer
- Pharo consortium member can also
ask and pay for extra
support days at INRIA engineer prices (around 600 Euros) per
day.
- Member can offer to their client
access to the
possibility to pay for extra support days at INRIA engineer prices
(around
600 Euros) per day.
- The core team can provide contact
with experts for
certain areas of development.
Pharo Consortium Gouvernance: steering committee
----------------------------------------
The consortium will be managed as follows: There will be a
steering
committee and an Executive Team.
* A steering committee is composed of one representative
of each
member (except individuals).
* The chairman of this committee will be Inria
* Steering Committee Role :
- The Steering Committee follows the execution of
the PHARO
R&D Team
- It validates and gives
input about the task list
of the Executive Team.
- It can propose members of
the executive team.
- It prepares, organizes conferences, seminars or
other
animations to promote PHARO and have new members
- It revises the annual
fee
* Decisions taking: after consultation and collect of
representative
member points of views, Inria takes the final decision.
* The steering committee will communicate via a private
mailing-list. It may meet physical once a year.
* An agenda to reach conclusion will be established by
Inria on
proposals of the members (the members will be queried a month in
advance).
Technical Executive Committee (akaR&D task)
----------------------------------------
* The Executive Team is composed of members proposed by
the steering
board and RMOD Team
* Its roles is to
* Study, analyze and validate external
contributions for
PHARO
* Report to the steering
committee
* Present a task list to the steering committee.
* Propose, schedule and implement tasks in
conformance with
the tasks list.
* Coordinate the release
Pharo and its VMs
Pharo consortium Sponsoring
---------------------------
Orthogonally to memberships, an entity can be a sponsor of
the
consortium without being a pharo consortium member.
Pharo consortium are de factor
platinium sponsor. Sponsors
will get their logos name exposed to the consortium web
site.
There are two kinds of sponsors:
- normal 500 Euros
- diamond 1000 Euros
Job board
---------
Non consortium member companies will be able to pay a fee
(1000
Euros) to post job offers to the job board.
End of Pharo Consortium Description
=====================
*** Support and Answer needed***
=====================
To be able to pay an engineer by the consortium, INRIA needs to make
projection,
build budget, pay attention to visa
and other important administrative tasks. To deal
with the risk that the
consortium may not collect enough to pay a full salary
we are considering to ask INRIA to help us
financially. To do so we have
to give some concrete figures to
INRIA and motivate our request. In addition, our
team (RMOD) on its own
budget will try to compensate by allocating extra resources
However, this will be only a one shot. In
addition, some of our team
members have been approached by google to work on chrome
and dart
Virtual Machines. So if we really get a future we
should build it now.
Many of you told us that they want to support the consortium, now we
need to know
what would be amount of membership, sponsoring
you could give. So please read carefully this
mail and send us a mail at
stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr with the same subject than
this one.
We will collect the information and build a case
to present to INRIA.
Thanks in advance for Pharo and for the future that we are building
together.
The RMOD team and the Pharo board
7:53 p.m.
New subject: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] **IMPORTANT** MUST READ: Pharo Association and Consortium
Hi laurent
how do we subscribe to the consortium ?
for now only company, institution, research group, labs, ... (non individual people) can
be member of the consortium
because of administrative details. INRIA lawyers are checking what can be done.
We decided to make it simpler so that we can move on. The idea is that if we want to avoid
that a guy like igor got hired by google :(
we should make sure that we get some money for the consortium. Now to hire somebody we
have to plan in advance.
Now you can be an Pharo association member.
In the future, if (I really hope) the consortium can sustain itself, it will leave INRIA
and be managed by the association
and in that case individual pharo members will be member of the consortium with the same
status as individual will get (because we cannot
really give the same to somebody paying 40 euros and a company paying 1000/2000 Euros).
After since the consortium can offer payed engineer hours, everything is possible.
Esteban is working on the association web site right now. We are filling up all the papers
to get a bank account for the association.
Does it answer your question?
Stef
Laurent Laffont
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:38 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>
wrote:
I can open a wiki page to maintain the list of consortium member I received.
Let me know if it makes sense to you.
Stef
On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers
This mail is really important so read it carefully. Especially the last part of the mail
is important for the
immediate future: we need your support and input. Read section ***Support*** at the end
of this mail.
Context
=======
After taking into account feedback from companies and pharo users in different occasions
and
discussing with the INRIA lawyers and the team in charge of the administrative aspect of
the consoritum
here is the setup we finally want for the consortium. We will have two separated
entities:
- one french law 1901 association for individuals and
- one consortium for institutions (companies, research groups, laboratories,
universities...) managed by INRIA
We hope that in the long run the consortium will be fully managed by the association
but in the current bootstrap phase INRIA is a good solution.
==============
The Pharo Association
==============
The goal of the association is to promote Pharo. It will have its own web site.
Individual Memberships (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
There are two individual memberships
- Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 40 Euros
- Golden Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 99 Euros
You will get
a nice goody,
reduction access to conferences,
reduction for training and access to teaching material,
be part of the pharo groups on social networks,
be part of the pharoAssociation-individual-members mailing-list,
get access and registered to the pharo association web site.
Others (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
The association will be able to issues bills so you will be able to buy a Pharo
distribution
when your organization cannot be a member, a sponsor or doing a donation to the
Pharo consortium.
End of Pharo Association Description
===========================
The Pharo Consortium (managed by INRIA)
===========================
The goal of the consortium is to structure and build an umbrella to foster business
around Pharo and to promote Pharo.
A company, user group, research group, team or institution can be a consortium member,
not individual member.
There are three levels of fees and corresponding benefits. You decide your degree of
support.
The annual fees are
- Bronze 1000 Euros
- Silver 2000 Euros
- Gold 4000 Euros
Consortium members main advantages are
----------------------------------------
Non individual members of the consortium get the following advantages:
- privileged access to the core development team via a specific
mailing-list
pharo-core-team-for-members(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr
- influence priorities of the next development. The member will be able to
propose
agenda points and items for the executive team. They will be requested one
month in
advance before the committee meeting.
- get access to privileged core engineer time (to address pharo core
problems)
- Bronze member gets
one day of engineering time
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Silver
+ two days of engineering time
+ one job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor..
- Gold four
+ 4 days of engineering time
+ multiple job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Training special prices and possibility to become pharo trainer
- Pharo consortium member can also ask and pay for extra support days at
INRIA engineer prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- Member can offer to their client access to the possibility to pay for
extra support days at INRIA engineer prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- The core team can provide contact with experts for certain areas of
development.
Pharo Consortium Gouvernance: steering committee
----------------------------------------
The consortium will be managed as follows: There will be a steering committee and
an Executive Team.
* A steering committee is composed of one representative of each member
(except individuals).
* The chairman of this committee will be Inria
* Steering Committee Role :
- The Steering Committee follows the execution of the PHARO R&D
Team
- It validates and gives input about the task list of the Executive
Team.
- It can propose members of the executive team.
- It prepares, organizes conferences, seminars or other animations
to promote PHARO and have new members
- It revises the annual fee
* Decisions taking: after consultation and collect of representative member
points of views, Inria takes the final decision.
* The steering committee will communicate via a private mailing-list. It
may meet physical once a year.
* An agenda to reach conclusion will be established by Inria on proposals
of the members (the members will be queried a month in advance).
Technical Executive Committee (akaR&D task)
----------------------------------------
* The Executive Team is composed of members proposed by the steering board
and RMOD Team
* Its roles is to
* Study, analyze and validate external contributions for PHARO
* Report to the steering committee
* Present a task list to the steering committee.
* Propose, schedule and implement tasks in conformance with the
tasks list.
* Coordinate the release Pharo and its VMs
Pharo consortium Sponsoring
---------------------------
Orthogonally to memberships, an entity can be a sponsor of the consortium
without being a pharo consortium member.
Pharo consortium are de factor platinium sponsor. Sponsors will get their
logos name exposed to the consortium web site.
There are two kinds of sponsors:
- normal 500 Euros
- diamond 1000 Euros
Job board
---------
Non consortium member companies will be able to pay a fee (1000 Euros) to
post job offers to the job board.
End of Pharo Consortium Description
=====================
*** Support and Answer needed***
=====================
To be able to pay an engineer by the consortium, INRIA needs to make projection, build
budget, pay attention to visa
and other important administrative tasks. To deal with the risk that the consortium may
not collect enough to pay a full salary
we are considering to ask INRIA to help us financially. To do so we have to give some
concrete figures to
INRIA and motivate our request. In addition, our team (RMOD) on its own budget will try
to compensate by allocating extra resources
However, this will be only a one shot. In addition, some of our team members have been
approached by google to work on chrome and dart
Virtual Machines. So if we really get a future we should build it now.
Many of you told us that they want to support the consortium, now we need to know what
would be amount of membership, sponsoring
you could give. So please read carefully this mail and send us a mail at
stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr with the same subject than this one.
We will collect the information and build a case to present to INRIA.
Thanks in advance for Pharo and for the future that we are building together.
The RMOD team and the Pharo board
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New subject: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] **IMPORTANT** MUST READ: Pharo Association and Consortium
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr
wrote:
Hi laurent
Yes, thank you.
Laurent
>
> Stef
>
>
> >
> > Laurent Laffont
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:38 PM, stephane ducasse <
> stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr how do we subscribe to the consortium ?
for now only company, institution, research group, labs, ... (non
individual people) can be member of the consortium
because of administrative details. INRIA lawyers are checking what can be
done.
We decided to make it simpler so that we can move on. The idea is that if
we want to avoid that a guy like igor got hired by google :(
we should make sure that we get some money for the consortium. Now to hire
somebody we have to plan in advance.
Now you can be an Pharo association member.
In the future, if (I really hope) the consortium can sustain itself, it
will leave INRIA and be managed by the association
and in that case individual pharo members will be member of the consortium
with the same status as individual will get (because we cannot
really give the same to somebody paying 40 euros and a company paying
1000/2000 Euros).
After since the consortium can offer payed engineer hours, everything is
possible.
Esteban is working on the association web site right now. We are filling
up all the papers to get a bank account for the association.
Does it answer your question?
wrote:
> > I
can open a wiki page to maintain the list of consortium member I
> received.
> > Let me know if it makes sense to you.
> >
> > Stef
> >
> > On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers
> > >
> > > This mail is really important so read it carefully. Especially the
> last part of the mail is important for the
> > > immediate future: we need your support and input. Read section
> ***Support*** at the end of this mail.
> > >
> > > Context
> > > =======
> > > After taking into account feedback from companies and pharo users in
> different occasions and
> > > discussing with the INRIA lawyers and the team in charge of the
> administrative aspect of the consoritum
> > > here is the setup we finally want for the consortium. We will have two
> separated entities:
> > > - one french law 1901 association for individuals and
> > > - one consortium for institutions (companies, research groups,
> laboratories, universities...) managed by INRIA
> > >
> > > We hope that in the long run the consortium will be fully managed by
> the association
> > > but in the current bootstrap phase INRIA is a good solution.
> > >
> > > ==============
> > > The Pharo Association
> > > ==============
> > > The goal of the association is to promote Pharo. It will have its own
> web site.
> > >
> > > Individual Memberships (managed by the Pharo Association)
> > > ----------------------
> > > There are two individual memberships
> > > - Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 40
> Euros
> > > - Golden Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee
> 99 Euros
> > >
> > > You will get
> > > a nice goody,
> > > reduction access to conferences,
> > > reduction for training and access to teaching material,
> > > be part of the pharo groups on social networks,
> > > be part of the pharoAssociation-individual-members
> mailing-list,
> > > get access and registered to the pharo association web
> site.
> > >
> > > Others (managed by the Pharo Association)
> > > ----------------------
> > > The association will be able to issues bills so you will be able
> to buy a Pharo distribution
> > > when your organization cannot be a member, a sponsor or doing a
> donation to the Pharo consortium.
> > >
> > > End of Pharo Association Description
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===========================
> > > The Pharo Consortium (managed by INRIA)
> > > ===========================
> > > The goal of the consortium is to structure and build an umbrella to
> foster business around Pharo and to promote Pharo.
> > >
> > > A company, user group, research group, team or institution can be a
> consortium member, not individual member.
> > >
> > > There are three levels of fees and corresponding benefits. You decide
> your degree of support.
> > > The annual fees are
> > > - Bronze 1000 Euros
> > > - Silver 2000 Euros
> > > - Gold 4000 Euros
> > >
> > > Consortium members main advantages are
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Non individual members of the consortium get the following
> advantages:
> > >
> > > - privileged access to the core development team via a
> specific mailing-list
> > >
> pharo-core-team-for-members(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr
> > >
> > > - influence priorities of the next development. The
> member will be able to propose
> > > agenda points and items for the executive team. They
> will be requested one month in
> > > advance before the committee meeting.
> > >
> > > - get access to privileged core engineer time (to
> address pharo core problems)
> > >
> > > - Bronze member gets
> > > one day of engineering time
> > > + is automatically a diamond
> sponsor.
> > >
> > > - Silver
> > > + two days of engineering time
> > > + one job description for job
> dashboard
> > > + is automatically a diamond
> sponsor..
> > >
> > > - Gold four
> > > + 4 days of engineering time
> > > + multiple job description for
> job dashboard
> > > + is automatically a diamond
> sponsor.
> > >
> > > - Training special prices and possibility to become
> pharo trainer
> > > - Pharo consortium member can also ask and pay for extra
> support days at INRIA engineer prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
> > > - Member can offer to their client access to the
> possibility to pay for extra support days at INRIA engineer prices (around
> 600 Euros) per day.
> > > - The core team can provide contact with experts for
> certain areas of development.
> > >
> > > Pharo Consortium Gouvernance: steering committee
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > The consortium will be managed as follows: There will be a
> steering committee and an Executive Team.
> > >
> > > * A steering committee is composed of one representative
> of each member (except individuals).
> > >
> > > * The chairman of this committee will be Inria
> > >
> > > * Steering Committee Role :
> > > - The Steering Committee follows the execution
> of the PHARO R&D Team
> > > - It validates and gives input about the task
> list of the Executive Team.
> > > - It can propose members of the executive team.
> > > - It prepares, organizes conferences, seminars
> or other animations to promote PHARO and have new members
> > > - It revises the annual fee
> > > * Decisions taking: after consultation and collect of
> representative member points of views, Inria takes the final decision.
> > >
> > > * The steering committee will communicate via a private
> mailing-list. It may meet physical once a year.
> > >
> > > * An agenda to reach conclusion will be established by
> Inria on proposals of the members (the members will be queried a month in
> advance).
> > >
> > > Technical Executive Committee (akaR&D task)
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > * The Executive Team is composed of members proposed by
> the steering board and RMOD Team
> > > * Its roles is to
> > > * Study, analyze and validate external
> contributions for PHARO
> > > * Report to the steering committee
> > > * Present a task list to the steering committee.
> > > * Propose, schedule and implement tasks in
> conformance with the tasks list.
> > > * Coordinate the release Pharo and its VMs
> > >
> > > Pharo consortium Sponsoring
> > > ---------------------------
> > > Orthogonally to memberships, an entity can be a sponsor
> of the consortium without being a pharo consortium member.
> > > Pharo consortium are de factor platinium sponsor.
> Sponsors will get their logos name exposed to the consortium web site.
> > > There are two kinds of sponsors:
> > > - normal 500 Euros
> > > - diamond 1000 Euros
> > >
> > > Job board
> > > ---------
> > > Non consortium member companies will be able to pay a
> fee (1000 Euros) to post job offers to the job board.
> > >
> > > End of Pharo Consortium Description
> > >
> > >
> > > =====================
> > > *** Support and Answer needed***
> > > =====================
> > >
> > > To be able to pay an engineer by the consortium, INRIA needs to make
> projection, build budget, pay attention to visa
> > > and other important administrative tasks. To deal with the risk that
> the consortium may not collect enough to pay a full salary
> > > we are considering to ask INRIA to help us financially. To do so we
> have to give some concrete figures to
> > > INRIA and motivate our request. In addition, our team (RMOD) on its
> own budget will try to compensate by allocating extra resources
> > > However, this will be only a one shot. In addition, some of our team
> members have been approached by google to work on chrome and dart
> > > Virtual Machines. So if we really get a future we should build it now.
> > >
> > > Many of you told us that they want to support the consortium, now we
> need to know what would be amount of membership, sponsoring
> > > you could give. So please read carefully this mail and send us a mail
> at stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr with the same subject than this one.
> > > We will collect the information and build a case to present to INRIA.
> > > Thanks in advance for Pharo and for the future that we are building
> together.
> > >
> > > The RMOD team and the Pharo board
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Esug-list mailing list
> > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org
> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
>
>
30 Jun
30 Jun
12:46 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-project] **IMPORTANT** MUST READ: Pharo Association and Consortium
Hi All,
thank you Stef for this piece of information.
I will subscribe as individual member.
Let's say, you're doing a good job, I enjoy a lot using Pharo, that
let's me permit do/use funny and usefull things, teaching students, make
some research software prototypes, etc.
I have to say I would probably not succeed in convincing my university
staff to subscribe to the consortium. I personnaly vote for that, I will
try and will do my best but I'am not optimistic :-(
I understand that the fees are intended for enterprises or organizations
that aim to make business arround and/or with Pharo. I and my lab are
not in such a perspective. Maybe I would succeed in convincing IAE
director for some hundred euros for supporting your work...not for 1000
or more. Nevertheless, I will try.
All the best,
Herve
On 28/06/12 14:19, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers
This mail is really important so read it carefully. Especially the last part of the mail
is important for the
immediate future: we need your support and input. Read section ***Support*** at the end
of this mail.
Context
=======
After taking into account feedback from companies and pharo users in different occasions
and
discussing with the INRIA lawyers and the team in charge of the administrative aspect of
the consoritum
here is the setup we finally want for the consortium. We will have two separated
entities:
- one french law 1901 association for individuals and
- one consortium for institutions (companies, research groups, laboratories,
universities...) managed by INRIA
We hope that in the long run the consortium will be fully managed by the association
but in the current bootstrap phase INRIA is a good solution.
==============
The Pharo Association
==============
The goal of the association is to promote Pharo. It will have its own web site.
Individual Memberships (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
There are two individual memberships
- Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 40 Euros
- Golden Individual Pharo Association Member: Yearly fee 99 Euros
You will get
a nice goody,
reduction access to conferences,
reduction for training and access to teaching material,
be part of the pharo groups on social networks,
be part of the pharoAssociation-individual-members mailing-list,
get access and registered to the pharo association web site.
Others (managed by the Pharo Association)
----------------------
The association will be able to issues bills so you will be able to buy a Pharo
distribution
when your organization cannot be a member, a sponsor or doing a donation to the Pharo
consortium.
End of Pharo Association Description
===========================
The Pharo Consortium (managed by INRIA)
===========================
The goal of the consortium is to structure and build an umbrella to foster business
around Pharo and to promote Pharo.
A company, user group, research group, team or institution can be a consortium member,
not individual member.
There are three levels of fees and corresponding benefits. You decide your degree of
support.
The annual fees are
- Bronze 1000 Euros
- Silver 2000 Euros
- Gold 4000 Euros
Consortium members main advantages are
----------------------------------------
Non individual members of the consortium get the following advantages:
- privileged access to the core development team via a specific mailing-list
pharo-core-team-for-members(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr
- influence priorities of the next development. The member will be able to propose
agenda points and items for the executive team. They will be requested one month in
advance before the committee meeting.
- get access to privileged core engineer time (to address pharo core problems)
- Bronze member gets
one day of engineering time
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Silver
+ two days of engineering time
+ one job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor..
- Gold four
+ 4 days of engineering time
+ multiple job description for job dashboard
+ is automatically a diamond sponsor.
- Training special prices and possibility to become pharo trainer
- Pharo consortium member can also ask and pay for extra support days at INRIA engineer
prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- Member can offer to their client access to the possibility to pay for extra support
days at INRIA engineer prices (around 600 Euros) per day.
- The core team can provide contact with experts for certain areas of development.
Pharo Consortium Gouvernance: steering committee
----------------------------------------
The consortium will be managed as follows: There will be a steering committee and an
Executive Team.
* A steering committee is composed of one representative of each member (except
individuals).
* The chairman of this committee will be Inria
* Steering Committee Role :
- The Steering Committee follows the execution of the PHARO R&D Team
- It validates and gives input about the task list of the Executive Team.
- It can propose members of the executive team.
- It prepares, organizes conferences, seminars or other animations to promote PHARO
and have new members
- It revises the annual fee
* Decisions taking: after consultation and collect of representative member points of
views, Inria takes the final decision.
* The steering committee will communicate via a private mailing-list. It may meet
physical once a year.
* An agenda to reach conclusion will be established by Inria on proposals of the
members (the members will be queried a month in advance).
Technical Executive Committee (akaR&D task)
----------------------------------------
* The Executive Team is composed of members proposed by the steering board and RMOD
Team
* Its roles is to
* Study, analyze and validate external contributions for PHARO
* Report to the steering committee
* Present a task list to the steering committee.
* Propose, schedule and implement tasks in conformance with the tasks list.
* Coordinate the release Pharo and its VMs
Pharo consortium Sponsoring
---------------------------
Orthogonally to memberships, an entity can be a sponsor of the consortium without being
a pharo consortium member.
Pharo consortium are de factor platinium sponsor. Sponsors will get their logos name
exposed to the consortium web site.
There are two kinds of sponsors:
- normal 500 Euros
- diamond 1000 Euros
Job board
---------
Non consortium member companies will be able to pay a fee (1000 Euros) to post job
offers to the job board.
End of Pharo Consortium Description
=====================
*** Support and Answer needed***
=====================
To be able to pay an engineer by the consortium, INRIA needs to make projection, build
budget, pay attention to visa
and other important administrative tasks. To deal with the risk that the consortium may
not collect enough to pay a full salary
we are considering to ask INRIA to help us financially. To do so we have to give some
concrete figures to
INRIA and motivate our request. In addition, our team (RMOD) on its own budget will try
to compensate by allocating extra resources
However, this will be only a one shot. In addition, some of our team members have been
approached by google to work on chrome and dart
Virtual Machines. So if we really get a future we should build it now.
Many of you told us that they want to support the consortium, now we need to know what
would be amount of membership, sponsoring
you could give. So please read carefully this mail and send us a mail at
stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr with the same subject than this one.
We will collect the information and build a case to present to INRIA.
Thanks in advance for Pharo and for the future that we are building together.
The RMOD team and the Pharo board
2:09 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-project] **IMPORTANT** MUST READ: Pharo Association and Consortium
On Jun 30, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Herve Verjus wrote:
Hi All,
thank you Stef for this piece of information.
I will subscribe as individual member.
Let's say, you're doing a good job, I enjoy a lot using Pharo, that let's me
permit do/use funny and usefull things, teaching students, make some research software
prototypes, etc.
I have to say I would probably not succeed in convincing my university staff to subscribe
to the consortium. I personnaly vote for that, I will try and will do my best but I'am
not optimistic :-(
I understand that the fees are intended for enterprises or organizations that aim to make
business arround and/or with Pharo. I and my lab are not in such a perspective. Maybe I
would succeed in convincing IAE director for some hundred euros for supporting your
work...not for 1000 or more. Nevertheless, I will try.
Thanks
there is also the sponsoring possibility and the association can provide a bill for a
pharo "distribution"
So you can try to play with different budgets.
All the best,
Herve
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