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Yuriy Tymchuk

6 Aug 2013 6 Aug '13

8:53 p.m.

Hi guys. So Benjamin Arezki is working on PetitJava and FAST for Java and I'm very happy about that. Now I want to make a well structured project with an opportunity to integrate it into Moose. Can anyone suggest me what to do with the configuration? Because it's hard for me to understand me all the shenanigans with metacello. Should I store each package separately, add all of them into a baseline and then add them with versions to a 'version'? I'd really like to make a good use of my project, but I need help form you (especially Doru ;) ) Cheers! Uko -- View this message in context: http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Configuring-FAST-metacello-tp4028315.h… Sent from the moose-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Tudor Girba

9 Aug 9 Aug

10:55 p.m.

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Yuriy Tymchuk

11:32 p.m.

Thanks On 9 серп. 2013, at 23:55, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:

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Hi Yuriy, Good news. I would be happy to help. I will try to make a bit of time sometime next week. Please ping me on Wednesday, if I did not react until then. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: Hi guys. So Benjamin Arezki is working on PetitJava and FAST for Java and I'm very happy about that. Now I want to make a well structured project with an opportunity to integrate it into Moose. Can anyone suggest me what to do with the configuration? Because it's hard for me to understand me all the shenanigans with metacello. Should I store each package separately, add all of them into a baseline and then add them with versions to a 'version'? I'd really like to make a good use of my project, but I need help form you (especially Doru ;) ) Cheers! Uko -- View this message in context: http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Configuring-FAST-metacello-tp4028315.h… Sent from the moose-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Yuriy Tymchuk

15 Aug 15 Aug

3:49 p.m.

Hi Doru, so I'm pinging :) uko On 9 серп. 2013, at 23:55, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:

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Tudor Girba

16 Aug 16 Aug

3:42 p.m.

Pong :). I took a look at the configuration, and I think you need three different projects: - FASTCore -> FAMIX (which we do not have yet, but we should add it) - FASTJava -> FASTCore, PetitJava - FASTPharo -> FASTCore This implies three different configurations. The little visualization you have should be packaged in a separate project altogether. Also, I do not quite understand the need for the FAMIX wrapper classes from FAST-Model. For example, you have "FAMIXSourcedEntity subclass: #FASTBehaviouralEntity" Why was FAMIXBehaviouralEntity not enough? Doru On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:

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Hi Doru, so I'm pinging :) uko On 9 серп. 2013, at 23:55, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi Yuriy, Good news. I would be happy to help. I will try to make a bit of time sometime next week. Please ping me on Wednesday, if I did not react until then. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>wrote;wrote:

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Nicolas Anquetil

6:19 p.m.

As I remember it, it was a suggestion of Stephane and Marcus to isolate FAST from FAMIX nicolas On 08/16/2013 03:42 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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Also, I do not quite understand the need for the FAMIX wrapper classes from FAST-Model. For example, you have "FAMIXSourcedEntity subclass: #FASTBehaviouralEntity" Why was FAMIXBehaviouralEntity not enough? Doru

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Tudor Girba

9:08 p.m.

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As I remember it, it was a suggestion of Stephane and Marcus to isolate FAST from FAMIX nicolas On 08/16/2013 03:42 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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Yuriy Tymchuk

17 Aug 17 Aug

8:15 a.m.

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As I remember it, it was a suggestion of Stephane and Marcus to isolate FAST from FAMIX nicolas On 08/16/2013 03:42 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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Yuriy Tymchuk

20 Aug 20 Aug

11:55 a.m.

Ok, so as far as I understand - we'll release Moose 4.8 and then I can start to integrate FAST into Moose 5? Uko On 17 серп. 2013, at 09:15, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:

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The AST should certainly be separate, like it is now. But, it would be more effective to have the FAMIX entity directly linked with the AST. I used this pattern on a couple of projects and it makes querying quite cheap. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Nicolas Anquetil <Nicolas.Anquetil(a)inria.fr> wrote: As I remember it, it was a suggestion of Stephane and Marcus to isolate FAST from FAMIX nicolas On 08/16/2013 03:42 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Also, I do not quite understand the need for the FAMIX wrapper classes from FAST-Model. For example, you have "FAMIXSourcedEntity subclass: #FASTBehaviouralEntity" Why was FAMIXBehaviouralEntity not enough? Doru -- Nicolas Anquetil -- RMod research team (Inria) _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Tudor Girba

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Well, you can start splitting the project anyway. Doru On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>wrote;wrote:

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Ok, so as far as I understand - we'll release Moose 4.8 and then I can start to integrate FAST into Moose 5? Uko On 17 серп. 2013, at 09:15, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: Yes, I followed Stef's suggestion. Moreover at the beginning I wasn't so sure about what I'm doing, so I didn't want to mess directly with FAMIX Uko Надіслано з iPhone 16 серп. 2013 о 22:08 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> написав(ла): The AST should certainly be separate, like it is now. But, it would be more effective to have the FAMIX entity directly linked with the AST. I used this pattern on a couple of projects and it makes querying quite cheap. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Nicolas Anquetil < Nicolas.Anquetil(a)inria.fr> wrote:

As I remember it, it was a suggestion of Stephane and Marcus to isolate FAST from FAMIX nicolas On 08/16/2013 03:42 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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Yuriy Tymchuk

21 Aug 21 Aug

10:30 a.m.

Yes, so I'll add corresponding projects to the Moose team on SmalltalkHub, OK? Uko On 20 серп. 2013, at 13:00, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:

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Well, you can start splitting the project anyway. Doru On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: Ok, so as far as I understand - we'll release Moose 4.8 and then I can start to integrate FAST into Moose 5? Uko On 17 серп. 2013, at 09:15, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:

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Yuriy Tymchuk

30 Aug 30 Aug

12:14 p.m.

Hi everyone! I've done quite a lot of work on FAST restructuring and now there are 3 separate projects: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose/FASTCore http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose/FASTPharo http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose/FASTJava An image with everything loaded can be fetched from here: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/FA… Feedback is appreciated :) Uko On 20 серп. 2013, at 13:00, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:

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Nicolas Anquetil

1:36 p.m.

great! thanks a lot for your continuous implication in the project nicolas On 08/30/2013 12:14 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:

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Hi everyone! I've done quite a lot of work on FAST restructuring and now there are 3 separate projects: * http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose/FASTCore <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EMoose/FASTCore> * http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose/FASTPharo <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EMoose/FASTPharo> * http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose/FASTJava <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EMoose/FASTJava> An image with everything loaded can be fetched from here: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/FA… Feedback is appreciated :) Uko On 20 ????. 2013, at 13:00, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote:

Well, you can start splitting the project anyway. Doru On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com <mailto:yuriy.tymchuk@me.com>> wrote: Ok, so as far as I understand - we'll release Moose 4.8 and then I can start to integrate FAST into Moose 5? Uko On 17 ????. 2013, at 09:15, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com <mailto:yuriy.tymchuk@me.com>> wrote:

Yes, I followed Stef's suggestion. Moreover at the beginning I wasn't so sure about what I'm doing, so I didn't want to mess directly with FAMIX Uko ????????? ? iPhone 16 ????. 2013 ? 22:08 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> ???????(??):

The AST should certainly be separate, like it is now. But, it would be more effective to have the FAMIX entity directly linked with the AST. I used this pattern on a couple of projects and it makes querying quite cheap. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Nicolas Anquetil <Nicolas.Anquetil(a)inria.fr <mailto:Nicolas.Anquetil@inria.fr>> wrote: As I remember it, it was a suggestion of Stephane and Marcus to isolate FAST from FAMIX nicolas On 08/16/2013 03:42 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Also, I do not quite understand the need for the FAMIX wrapper classes from FAST-Model. For example, you have "FAMIXSourcedEntity subclass: #FASTBehaviouralEntity" Why was FAMIXBehaviouralEntity not enough? Doru -- Nicolas Anquetil -- RMod research team (Inria) _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Yuriy Tymchuk

8:22 p.m.

On 30 серп. 2013, at 14:36, Nicolas Anquetil <Nicolas.Anquetil(a)inria.fr> wrote:

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great! thanks a lot for your continuous implication in the project

Well, I'm responsible for what I've created :). Thank you for helping me during main development stage. Uko

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nicolas On 08/30/2013 12:14 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:

Yes, I followed Stef's suggestion. Moreover at the beginning I wasn't so sure about what I'm doing, so I didn't want to mess directly with FAMIX Uko Надіслано з iPhone 16 серп. 2013 о 22:08 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> написав(ла): > The AST should certainly be separate, like it is now. But, it would be more effective to have the FAMIX entity directly linked with the AST. I used this pattern on a couple of projects and it makes querying quite cheap. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Nicolas Anquetil <Nicolas.Anquetil(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > As I remember it, it was a suggestion of Stephane and Marcus to isolate FAST from FAMIX > > nicolas > > > On 08/16/2013 03:42 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Also, I do not quite understand the need for the FAMIX wrapper classes from FAST-Model. For example, you have > "FAMIXSourcedEntity subclass: #FASTBehaviouralEntity" > > Why was FAMIXBehaviouralEntity not enough? > > Doru > > > -- > Nicolas Anquetil -- RMod research team (Inria) > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Stéphane Ducasse

31 Aug 31 Aug

2:36 p.m.

Cool I'm trying to parse ADA so may be after we will see if we can get FASTAda :) On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:

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