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Martin Dias

19 Aug 2011 19 Aug '11

8:20 a.m.

Hi! We have released a new version of Fuel-core. According to my benchmarks with Moose models, there is an improvement of 15-20% in export time. However, import time and file size is almost the same than in current version. There is a drawback if we adopt new version in Moose: saved files would become obsolete since the new format is incompatible. So maybe it is better to do not adopt the new version and keep the current one until we reach a better improvement. What do you think? Does anyone use the FL export/import option? Does it work fine? Bests, Martin

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Tudor Girba

19 Aug 19 Aug

8:29 a.m.

Hi Martin, I am using it not for storing models for a long time, but when I have something to do repeatedly in a short amount of time. The reason is exactly that I expected the file format to change over time. Ideally, in the future, it would be great to provide a loader or an adaptor for the old format to help make the transition. But, for now, I would suggest to move to the latest Fuel version. I do not think that anyone has tones of models in the Fuel format. Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:20, Martin Dias wrote:

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Martin Dias

8:45 a.m.

Hi On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:

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Well, at the moment what I can offer is a bit rustic compatibility solution: copy each class in current implementation (version 1.2) to a new one appending a suffix. For example FLSerializer --> FLSerializer12. It's similar with method extensions (*Fuel) scattered in the system. And save them in new 'Fuel12' category. You can choose to download the backward compatibility packages to load old files.

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But, for now, I would suggest to move to the latest Fuel version. I do not think that anyone has tones of models in the Fuel format.

ok!

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Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:20, Martin Dias wrote:

Hi! We have released a new version of Fuel-core. According to my benchmarks

with Moose models, there is an improvement of 15-20% in export time. However, import time and file size is almost the same than in current version.

There is a drawback if we adopt new version in Moose: saved files would

become obsolete since the new format is incompatible.

So maybe it is better to do not adopt the new version and keep the

current one until we reach a better improvement.

What do you think? Does anyone use the FL export/import option? Does it work fine? Bests, Martin _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Martin Dias

8:48 a.m.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:

Note: Moose FL export/import option currently interacts with Fuel through a kind of façade which allows to do this more or less transparently.

...

But, for now, I would suggest to move to the latest Fuel version. I do not think that anyone has tones of models in the Fuel format.

ok!

Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:20, Martin Dias wrote:

Hi! We have released a new version of Fuel-core. According to my benchmarks

with Moose models, there is an improvement of 15-20% in export time. However, import time and file size is almost the same than in current version.

There is a drawback if we adopt new version in Moose: saved files would

become obsolete since the new format is incompatible.

So maybe it is better to do not adopt the new version and keep the

current one until we reach a better improvement.

Mariano Martinez Peck

10:03 a.m.

Maybe we can do a script that does: 1) materialize all your graph. 2) update Fuel. 3) serialize again. On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>wrote;wrote:

Note: Moose FL export/import option currently interacts with Fuel through a kind of façade which allows to do this more or less transparently.

But, for now, I would suggest to move to the latest Fuel version. I do not think that anyone has tones of models in the Fuel format.

ok!

Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:20, Martin Dias wrote:

Hi! We have released a new version of Fuel-core. According to my benchmarks

with Moose models, there is an improvement of 15-20% in export time. However, import time and file size is almost the same than in current version.

There is a drawback if we adopt new version in Moose: saved files would

become obsolete since the new format is incompatible.

So maybe it is better to do not adopt the new version and keep the

current one until we reach a better improvement.

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Tudor Girba

12:42 p.m.

Hi, As I said, at this moment, upgrading is not a problem because we do not have many models in this format. But, for the future, if we want to rely on Fuel as the main storage facility, we need to ensure some smooth upgrade path. Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:45, Martin Dias wrote:

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Hi On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi Martin, I am using it not for storing models for a long time, but when I have something to do repeatedly in a short amount of time. The reason is exactly that I expected the file format to change over time. Ideally, in the future, it would be great to provide a loader or an adaptor for the old format to help make the transition. Well, at the moment what I can offer is a bit rustic compatibility solution: copy each class in current implementation (version 1.2) to a new one appending a suffix. For example FLSerializer --> FLSerializer12. It's similar with method extensions (*Fuel) scattered in the system. And save them in new 'Fuel12' category. You can choose to download the backward compatibility packages to load old files. But, for now, I would suggest to move to the latest Fuel version. I do not think that anyone has tones of models in the Fuel format. ok! Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:20, Martin Dias wrote:

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