8 May
2017
8 May
'17
11 p.m.
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to
work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the
implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived
increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can
be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring
any external VM plugin.
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of
the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn
went through. I think they did an amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make it
a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com where he
is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
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9 May
9 May
9:35 a.m.
Great news! Thank you all for the hard work.
Cheers,
-- Pavel
2017-05-08 23:00 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>om>:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended
Bloc (Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a
backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an
example), but the implementation addresses a concern that the community
raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to
Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical
library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM
plugin.
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was
possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole
implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an
amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort
required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce
that Alex joined feenk.com where he is primarily working on the graphical
stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
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www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
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9:41 a.m.
Definitely great!
It is nice to see feenk getting more Pharo solid engineering super powers.
Phil
Le 8 mai 2017 23:00, "Tudor Girba" <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> a écrit :
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended
Bloc (Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a
backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an
example), but the implementation addresses a concern that the community
raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to
Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical
library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM
plugin.
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was
possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole
implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an
amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort
required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce
that Alex joined feenk.com where he is primarily working on the graphical
stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
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www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
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1:38 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic
Very good work. Thanks for that!
Norbert
Am 08.05.2017 um 23:00 schrieb Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>om>:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to
work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the
implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived
increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can
be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring
any external VM plugin.
<bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png>
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of
the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn
went through. I think they did an amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
<http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/>
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make
it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com
<http://feenk.com/> where he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
--
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www.feenk.com
"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
2:04 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic
This is amazing! I gave a try an it really looks great!
Alexandre
On May 8, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to
work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the
implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived
increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can
be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring
any external VM plugin.
<bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png>
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of
the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn
went through. I think they did an amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make
it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com where
he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
10 May
10 May
1:15 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic
When I try to download on OSX the #dev version as outlined on Tudors blog
the download of the Moz2D lib for OSX fails: code tries to #download in
class MozLibraryMacInstaller from
http://syrel.ch/download.php?url=https://dl.bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/osx/dev…
which just hangs as it is not receiving a response.
Any comments?
Thx
T.
Gesendet: Dienstag, 09. Mai 2017 um 14:04 Uhr
Von: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
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question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic
This is amazing! I gave a try an it really looks great!
Alexandre
On May 8, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to
work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the
implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived
increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can
be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring
any external VM plugin.
<bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png>
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of
the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn
went through. I think they did an amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make
it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com where
he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
1:44 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic
Hi Torsten,
There might be a random problem with "proxy" server. The initial problem is
that I could not find a way how to download a file from bintray.com using
Pharo built-in download services. That is why I had to create a "proxy"
server based on my private page as a temporary workaround.
I tried it now with the image 60483 and it worked... Please, try again,
maybe it will work.
P.S. Sometimes our CI builds fails because of Moz2D download, which hangs
and then throws timeout error. Well, at least we have #core that works 100%
regardless of anything :D
Cheers,
Alex
On 10 May 2017 at 13:15, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote:
When I try to download on OSX the #dev version as
outlined on Tudors blog
the download of the Moz2D lib for OSX fails: code tries to #download in
class MozLibraryMacInstaller from
http://syrel.ch/download.php?url=https://dl.bintray.com/
syrel/Moz2D/osx/development/i386/libMoz2D.dylib
which just hangs as it is not receiving a response.
Any comments?
Thx
T.
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Von: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
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Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc &
cairo+morphic
This is amazing! I gave a try an it really looks great!
Alexandre
> On May 8, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex
extended Bloc
(Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as
a backend.
>
> Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an
example),
but the implementation addresses a concern that the community
raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to
Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical
library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM
plugin.
>
> <bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png>
>
> I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was
possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole
implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an
amazing job.
>
> You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
>
> Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort
required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce
that Alex joined feenk.com where he is primarily working on the graphical
stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
9 May
9 May
4:11 p.m.
Glad to hear this. Sounds like good times ahead for Bloc.
cheers -ben
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended
Bloc (Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a
backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an
example), but the implementation addresses a concern that the community
raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to
Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical
library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM
plugin.
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was
possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole
implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an
amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort
required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce
that Alex joined feenk.com where he is primarily working on the graphical
stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
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Nice! How do I use it? If I load the cairo/morphic version a lot of the examples produce
debuggers
Stephan
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Op 9 mei 2017 om 16:11 heeft Ben Coman
<btc(a)openinworld.com> het volgende geschreven:
Glad to hear this. Sounds like good times ahead for Bloc.
cheers -ben
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to
work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the
implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived
increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can
be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring
any external VM plugin.
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of
the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn
went through. I think they did an amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make
it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com where
he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
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If I understand correctly:
- you used the latest Pharo 6.0 and the stable Pharo VM
- you downloaded the code with:
Metacello new
baseline: 'Bloc';
repository: 'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src';
load:#core
And then which examples do not work?
For example, BlBasicExamples>>exampleGeometry should work.
Doru
On May 9, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Stephan Eggermont
<stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote:
Nice! How do I use it? If I load the cairo/morphic version a lot of the examples produce
debuggers
Stephan
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Op 9 mei 2017 om 16:11 heeft Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> het volgende
geschreven:
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Glad to hear this. Sounds like good times ahead
for Bloc.
cheers -ben
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to
work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the
implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived
increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can
be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring
any external VM plugin.
<bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png>
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of
the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn
went through. I think they did an amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make
it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com where
he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
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Op 9 mei 2017 om 17:05 heeft Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> het volgende geschreven:
If I understand correctly:
- you used the latest Pharo 6.0 and the stable Pharo VM
Now I also updated my vm again. Win 7 Pro, 60483, stable-20170503. Loading goes wrong with
older vm, the resulting image does not work
- you downloaded the code with:
Metacello new
baseline: 'Bloc';
repository: 'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src';
load:#core
And then which examples do not work?
BlInfiniteLinearLayoutExamples>>exampleClasses
Instance of SpText did not understand: #lockDuring:
Error: Wrong layout state! It should be: 4 but it is 2
For example, BlBasicExamples>>exampleGeometry should work.
That works
Stephan
Doru
On May 9, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Stephan Eggermont
<stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote:
Nice! How do I use it? If I load the cairo/morphic version a lot of the examples produce
debuggers
Stephan
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<btc(a)openinworld.com> het volgende geschreven:
Glad to hear this. Sounds like good times ahead for Bloc.
cheers -ben
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to
work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend.
Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the
implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived
increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can
be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring
any external VM plugin.
<bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png>
I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of
the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn
went through. I think they did an amazing job.
You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make
it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com where
he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo.
Cheers,
Doru
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www.feenk.com
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