I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges? Cheers, Jura 2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com>

Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please? Cheers, Alexandre On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges? edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi, Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow." On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: Yes, I will fix it. Cheers, Jura 2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges. Alexandre On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines.

How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?: --- view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout. --- So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to itself. I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration?

I think user should see it.

2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges. Alexandre On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi All, Yes indeed, I am very interested in this. Well, I already hacked together a way to display lines of opposite directions, but if this concept could be generalized and integrated into Roassal (by someone with better knowledge of Roassal then me :)), that would be very cool. What I did is I created the class QSLine which has a offset property. This property simple offsets the line from its attachment point. In my layout builder (QSVisualizer), I go through all edges and bundle them together as "bundled edges" by looking at all sources and destinations. If such a bundle has more than one edge (meaning it has two edges going in opposite directions to the same two nodes), I offset the lines of these edges in opposite directions. This has to be done outside of QSLine, since the lines don't and shouldn't know if they have a "twin". All of the code can be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package. Quicksilver can be loaded in the following way: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Quicksilver' project: 'Quicksilver'; package: 'ConfigurationOfQuicksilver'; load. ConfigurationOfQuicksilver loadDefault. The code where I bundle the edges together and offset them, can be found in: QSVisualizer:edgesFor: nodes view: view QSLine can also be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package. It is a subclass of ROLine. Cheers, Dennis On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: Currently we cannot render 2->2 lines, but it would not be complicated to add a particular line shape for this. I agree that ideally we should be able to see two lines 1->2 and 2->1. Currently we cannot because we do not have the appropriate shapes for this. Yes. There is several way to do this. As Softwarenaut does, is to have an offset. By the way, scg guys, you never asked for such a thing? Now is a good moment for shouting :-) Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines. How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?: --- view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout. --- So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to itself. I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration? I think user should see it. Cheers, Jura 2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges. Alexandre On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi Usman, Juraj fixed this problem. Thanks Juraj! In 1.337

Cheers, Alexandre On May 3, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote: edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev