Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com
Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com
Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com
Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com
I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com
Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com
Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com
Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected
- What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check
it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the
edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2.
Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com
Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com
Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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"Every thing has its own flow."
On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com
Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I
expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the
edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2.
Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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Exactly. The primary intention of the api is to build a correct graph. The drawing is on top of that. This is why I would prefer it to create the 2->2 edge.
Doru
On May 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines.
How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?:
--- view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout. ---
So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to itself. I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration?
I think user should see it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com
But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only
one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes
to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com
wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I
expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the
edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2.
Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines.
Currently we cannot render 2->2 lines, but it would not be complicated to add a particular line shape for this.
How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?:
view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout.
So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to itself. I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration?
I agree that ideally we should be able to see two lines 1->2 and 2->1. Currently we cannot because we do not have the appropriate shapes for this.
I think user should see it.
Yes. There is several way to do this. As Softwarenaut does, is to have an offset. By the way, scg guys, you never asked for such a thing? Now is a good moment for shouting :-)
Alexandre
2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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Hi All,
Yes indeed, I am very interested in this. Well, I already hacked together a way to display lines of opposite directions, but if this concept could be generalized and integrated into Roassal (by someone with better knowledge of Roassal then me :)), that would be very cool.
What I did is I created the class QSLine which has a offset property. This property simple offsets the line from its attachment point.
In my layout builder (QSVisualizer), I go through all edges and bundle them together as "bundled edges" by looking at all sources and destinations.
If such a bundle has more than one edge (meaning it has two edges going in opposite directions to the same two nodes), I offset the lines of these edges in opposite directions. This has to be done outside of QSLine, since the lines don't and shouldn't know if they have a "twin".
All of the code can be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package.
Quicksilver can be loaded in the following way:
*Gofer new* * smalltalkhubUser: 'Quicksilver' project: 'Quicksilver';* * package: 'ConfigurationOfQuicksilver';* * load.* *ConfigurationOfQuicksilver loadDefault.* * * The code where I bundle the edges together and offset them, can be found in: * * *QSVisualizer:**edgesFor: nodes view: view* * * QSLine can also be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package. It is a subclass of ROLine. * * Cheers, Dennis
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.comwrote:
Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines.
Currently we cannot render 2->2 lines, but it would not be complicated to add a particular line shape for this.
How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?:
view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout.
So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to
itself.
I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two
lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration?
I agree that ideally we should be able to see two lines 1->2 and 2->1. Currently we cannot because we do not have the appropriate shapes for this.
I think user should see it.
Yes. There is several way to do this. As Softwarenaut does, is to have an offset. By the way, scg guys, you never asked for such a thing? Now is a good moment for shouting :-)
Alexandre
2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com
wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only
one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all
nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com
wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I
expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of
the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2.
Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
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Ok, we will have a look at this.
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 8, 2013, at 3:25 AM, Dennis Schenk d.schenk@students.unibe.ch wrote:
Hi All,
Yes indeed, I am very interested in this. Well, I already hacked together a way to display lines of opposite directions, but if this concept could be generalized and integrated into Roassal (by someone with better knowledge of Roassal then me :)), that would be very cool.
What I did is I created the class QSLine which has a offset property. This property simple offsets the line from its attachment point.
In my layout builder (QSVisualizer), I go through all edges and bundle them together as "bundled edges" by looking at all sources and destinations.
If such a bundle has more than one edge (meaning it has two edges going in opposite directions to the same two nodes), I offset the lines of these edges in opposite directions. This has to be done outside of QSLine, since the lines don't and shouldn't know if they have a "twin".
All of the code can be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package.
Quicksilver can be loaded in the following way:
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Quicksilver' project: 'Quicksilver'; package: 'ConfigurationOfQuicksilver'; load. ConfigurationOfQuicksilver loadDefault.
The code where I bundle the edges together and offset them, can be found in:
QSVisualizer:edgesFor: nodes view: view
QSLine can also be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package. It is a subclass of ROLine.
Cheers, Dennis
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines.
Currently we cannot render 2->2 lines, but it would not be complicated to add a particular line shape for this.
How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?:
view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout.
So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to itself. I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration?
I agree that ideally we should be able to see two lines 1->2 and 2->1. Currently we cannot because we do not have the appropriate shapes for this.
I think user should see it.
Yes. There is several way to do this. As Softwarenaut does, is to have an offset. By the way, scg guys, you never asked for such a thing? Now is a good moment for shouting :-)
Alexandre
2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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By the way, I played a bit yesterday with Quicksilver, this is truly impressive. Nice piece of work!
Alexandre
On May 8, 2013, at 3:25 AM, Dennis Schenk d.schenk@students.unibe.ch wrote:
Hi All,
Yes indeed, I am very interested in this. Well, I already hacked together a way to display lines of opposite directions, but if this concept could be generalized and integrated into Roassal (by someone with better knowledge of Roassal then me :)), that would be very cool.
What I did is I created the class QSLine which has a offset property. This property simple offsets the line from its attachment point.
In my layout builder (QSVisualizer), I go through all edges and bundle them together as "bundled edges" by looking at all sources and destinations.
If such a bundle has more than one edge (meaning it has two edges going in opposite directions to the same two nodes), I offset the lines of these edges in opposite directions. This has to be done outside of QSLine, since the lines don't and shouldn't know if they have a "twin".
All of the code can be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package.
Quicksilver can be loaded in the following way:
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Quicksilver' project: 'Quicksilver'; package: 'ConfigurationOfQuicksilver'; load. ConfigurationOfQuicksilver loadDefault.
The code where I bundle the edges together and offset them, can be found in:
QSVisualizer:edgesFor: nodes view: view
QSLine can also be found in the Quicksilver-UI Package. It is a subclass of ROLine.
Cheers, Dennis
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines.
Currently we cannot render 2->2 lines, but it would not be complicated to add a particular line shape for this.
How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?:
view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout.
So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to itself. I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration?
I agree that ideally we should be able to see two lines 1->2 and 2->1. Currently we cannot because we do not have the appropriate shapes for this.
I think user should see it.
Yes. There is several way to do this. As Softwarenaut does, is to have an offset. By the way, scg guys, you never asked for such a thing? Now is a good moment for shouting :-)
Alexandre
2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
Usman
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The way the edge is displayed if given by the shape. Thus, if you use a line shape, you are not going to see those edges. But, if we use smarter shapes, like the one implemented by Dennis, in Quicksilver, we will see more details.
Cheers, Doru
On May 7, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I think it would be better to display 2->2 lines.
How do you mean "special shape"? Would it work in this example?:
view shape rectangle size: 20. view nodes: #(1 2 3 4 5). view shape line color: Color green. view edgesToAll: #(1 2 3 4 5). view circleLayout.
So every node will have 4 green edges to other node and 1 green edge to itself. I think we should also consider that in that example we cannot see two lines: one 1->2 and other 2->1. Should we take care of it and instead of two direct lines use, for example, bezier lines with different configuration?
I think user should see it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/7 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com But we could imagine a special shape that draw such edges.
Alexandre
On May 7, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
All other methods in Roassal do not create 2->2 edges. This was only one. I think there is no visualisation support for such edges.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com Hi,
Not really. When we say edgesToAll: we mean to draw edges from all nodes to all computed nodes. So, 2->2 is part of it, too. For a different behavior we should introduce another utility method.
Cheers, Doru
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On 06.05.2013, at 18:28, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I will fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/6 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com Your right Juraj, we should not have the edge 2->2. Would you mind to write a couple of tests and fix this problem please?
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:
The one edge I suppose not to be created is edge 2->2.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com I have a question: The example made by Usman creates 3 edges. I expected 2. What is right solution? Is it responsibility of user or should I check it in method #rawEdgesToAll: and create just 2 edges?
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com Hi,
you are right, I am going to fix it.
Cheers, Jura
2013/5/3 Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
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Hi Usman,
Juraj fixed this problem. Thanks Juraj! In 1.337
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com wrote:
Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2. Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
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Hi Usman,
Juraj fixed this problem. Thanks Juraj! In 1.337
Tx Alex and Juraj.
Cheers, Alexandre
On May 3, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Usman Bhatti usman.bhatti@gmail.com wrote:
Alex,
When using ROMondrianViewBuilder >> edgesToAll: the direction of the
edges is reversed. For example, in the script below, I am telling Roassal to draw edges to 2 but its drawing edges from 2.
Can you please confirm and correct, if need be.
view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle size:20. view nodes: #(1 2 3). view shape arrowedLine color: Color red. view edgesToAll: #(2). view forceBasedLayout. view open.
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