16 Jun
2011
16 Jun
'11
4:02 p.m.
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
16 Jun
16 Jun
4:07 p.m.
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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4:25 p.m.
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm−Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a
FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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4:28 p.m.
The idea is to map eclipse plugins to Components.
Does not make sense ?
nicolas
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Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:25:06
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm − Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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4:33 p.m.
Do we have components ?
For now, I just change the superclass of FAMIXPlugin.
It was FAMIXNamedEntity, now it is FAMIXContainerEntity that have incoming and outgoing
references.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:28 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
The idea is to map eclipse plugins to Components.
Does not make sense ?
nicolas
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À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:25:06
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm−Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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4:38 p.m.
containerEntity is a SourcedEntity
plugins/components are not
No we don't have Components. My idea is to create them to be a bit more generic than
just Eclipse plugins (if that make sense)
nicolas
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À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:33:24
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Do we have components ?
For now, I just change the superclass of FAMIXPlugin.
It was FAMIXNamedEntity, now it is FAMIXContainerEntity that have incoming and outgoing
references.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:28 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
The idea is to map eclipse plugins to Components.
Does not make sense ?
nicolas
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De: "jannik.laval" < jannik.laval(a)gmail.com >
À: "Moose-related development" < moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:25:06
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm − Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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4:47 p.m.
You are right.
I would like to create component also.
Now, we should discuss about where to place them in the hierarchy...
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:38 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
containerEntity is a SourcedEntity
plugins/components are not
No we don't have Components. My idea is to create them to be a bit more generic than
just Eclipse plugins (if that make sense)
nicolas
De: "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>
À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:33:24
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Do we have components ?
For now, I just change the superclass of FAMIXPlugin.
It was FAMIXNamedEntity, now it is FAMIXContainerEntity that have incoming and outgoing
references.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:28 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
The idea is to map eclipse plugins to Components.
Does not make sense ?
nicolas
De: "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>
À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:25:06
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm−Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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7:33 p.m.
Hi,
I would suggest to just implement the FAMIXEclipsePlugin as a subclass of FAMIXEntity. If
another similar entity appears we can unify then. Until that time, it is artificial to
introduce an abstract entity (i.e. component) because we do not know what we want it to
have exactly.
Cheers,
Doru
On 16 Jun 2011, at 16:47, jannik.laval wrote:
You are right.
I would like to create component also.
Now, we should discuss about where to place them in the hierarchy...
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:38 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
--
www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be focused on describing
the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious."
containerEntity is a SourcedEntity
plugins/components are not
No we don't have Components. My idea is to create them to be a bit more generic than
just Eclipse plugins (if that make sense)
nicolas
De: "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>
À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:33:24
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Do we have components ?
For now, I just change the superclass of FAMIXPlugin.
It was FAMIXNamedEntity, now it is FAMIXContainerEntity that have incoming and outgoing
references.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:28 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
The idea is to map eclipse plugins to Components.
Does not make sense ?
nicolas
De: "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>
À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:25:06
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm−Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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7:37 p.m.
Ok, I will do in next days.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 19:33 , Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I would suggest to just implement the FAMIXEclipsePlugin as a subclass of FAMIXEntity. If
another similar entity appears we can unify then. Until that time, it is artificial to
introduce an abstract entity (i.e. component) because we do not know what we want it to
have exactly.
Cheers,
Doru
On 16 Jun 2011, at 16:47, jannik.laval wrote:
You are right.
I would like to create component also.
Now, we should discuss about where to place them in the hierarchy...
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:38 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
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containerEntity is a SourcedEntity
plugins/components are not
No we don't have Components. My idea is to create them to be a bit more generic than
just Eclipse plugins (if that make sense)
nicolas
De: "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>
À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:33:24
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Do we have components ?
For now, I just change the superclass of FAMIXPlugin.
It was FAMIXNamedEntity, now it is FAMIXContainerEntity that have incoming and outgoing
references.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:28 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
The idea is to map eclipse plugins to Components.
Does not make sense ?
nicolas
De: "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>
À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:25:06
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm−Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
nicolas
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1:03 a.m.
Thanks.
In any case, having the plugins is a very nice addition. Just a question: is the
information populated by VerveineJ?
Cheers,
Doru
On 16 Jun 2011, at 19:37, jannik.laval wrote:
Ok, I will do in next days.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 19:33 , Tudor Girba wrote:
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"Value is always contextual."
Hi,
I would suggest to just implement the FAMIXEclipsePlugin as a subclass of FAMIXEntity. If
another similar entity appears we can unify then. Until that time, it is artificial to
introduce an abstract entity (i.e. component) because we do not know what we want it to
have exactly.
Cheers,
Doru
On 16 Jun 2011, at 16:47, jannik.laval wrote:
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev You are right.
I would like to create component also.
Now, we should discuss about where to place them in the hierarchy...
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:38 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
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"Problem solving should be focused on describing
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containerEntity is a SourcedEntity
plugins/components are not
No we don't have Components. My idea is to create them to be a bit more generic than
just Eclipse plugins (if that make sense)
nicolas
De: "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>
À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:33:24
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Do we have components ?
For now, I just change the superclass of FAMIXPlugin.
It was FAMIXNamedEntity, now it is FAMIXContainerEntity that have incoming and outgoing
references.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:28 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
The idea is to map eclipse plugins to Components.
Does not make sense ?
nicolas
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À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Juin 2011 16:25:06
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Yes, that is what I have implemented.
I should also add a "reference" to other plugins.
The source code is available for now:
Gofer new
squeaksource: ’dsm’;
package: ’Dsm−Plugins’;
load.
Jannik
On Jun 16, 2011, at 16:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I have the impression that you need a FAMIXEclipsePlugin class somewhere...
Alexandre
On 16 Jun 2011, at 10:02, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
For a project on a large Eclipse Application (Papyrus, for drawing UML graphs), we needed
to add Eclipse Plugins.
Jannik did a first implementation in Famix to be able to run moose, but it would be nice
to do-it-right.
So the proposition would be (this is not how we implemented it right now):
FamixComponent sub-concept of FamixEntity
has:
- belongsTo another FamixComponent
- childNamedEntities
A component is suppose to provide interfaces and require interfaces.
How can we represent that? with Type?
Eclipse plugins actually decalre other plugins that they require. I believe this is not
standard as component should only rely on interfaces, not other explicitly named
components ...
all input welcome
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De: "Tudor Girba"
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Envoyé: Vendredi 17 Juin 2011 01:03:12
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Thanks.
In any case, having the plugins is a very nice
addition. Just a
question: is the information populated by VerveineJ?
No, I prefer to keep things separated, Eclipse is not Java and vice-versa.
So I created a small new app. : verveineEclipse (or something along these lines)
The idea is to run verveineJ and then run verveineEclipse with the same parameters.
VerveineEclipse reads the output.mse generated by verveineJ, browses the directories to
find which one are eclipse plugins, and then looks for FamixTypes that are inside these
directories (using the FileAnchors).
From that, FamixPlugins are created and populated with
the types found.
It is running, but I did not have time to iron it out yet.
nicolas
19 Jun
19 Jun
6:30 p.m.
Hi,
I just reimplemented the EclipsePlugin.
It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from FAMIXReference.
it is available on: http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
Comments are welcome.
Jannik
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Envoyé: Vendredi 17 Juin 2011 01:03:12
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
Thanks.
In any case, having the plugins is a very nice
addition. Just a
question: is the information populated by VerveineJ?
No, I prefer to keep things separated, Eclipse is not Java and vice-versa.
So I created a small new app. : verveineEclipse (or something along these lines)
The idea is to run verveineJ and then run verveineEclipse with the same parameters.
VerveineEclipse reads the output.mse generated by verveineJ, browses the directories to
find which one are eclipse plugins, and then looks for FamixTypes that are inside these
directories (using the FileAnchors).
From that, FamixPlugins are created and populated
with the types found.
It is running, but I did not have time to iron it out yet.
nicolas
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9:46 a.m.
I just reimplemented the EclipsePlugin.
It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence
it is available on:
http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
4:48 p.m.
I have a problem with your EclipseReference when I "export" it to Java (which is
statically typed):
the type of source is not compatible between FAMIXRefefrence (a ContainerEntity) and
FAMIXEclipseReference (a EclipsePlugin)
To correct that in the Java code I would need to specify FAMIXEntity for both :-(
So may be it would be better to put it directly below FAMIXAssociation?
And also may be rename it to something more specific (import, requirement, dependency)?
nicolas
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Envoyé: Lundi 20 Juin 2011 09:46:43
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
I just reimplemented the EclipsePlugin.
It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence
it is available on:
http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
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On Jun 20, 2011, at 16:48 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I have a problem with your EclipseReference when I "export" it to Java (which
is statically typed):
the type of source is not compatible between FAMIXRefefrence (a ContainerEntity) and
FAMIXEclipseReference (a EclipsePlugin)
I do not understand the need of compatibility.
To correct that in the Java code I would need to specify FAMIXEntity for both :-(
what is the problem ?
So may be it would be better to put it directly below
FAMIXAssociation?
why not. The problem is the duplication of code.
And also may be rename it to something more specific
(import, requirement, dependency)?
Yes, we should fix the name used.
Jannik
nicolas
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It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence
it is available on:
http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
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On Jun 20, 2011, at 9:46 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I have no problem with the name. But we should fix it :)
Jannik
I just reimplemented the EclipsePlugin.
It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence it is available on:
http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
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I would vote with FAMIXEclipsePluginImport.
Cheers,
Doru
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On Jun 20, 2011, at 9:46 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I have no problem with the name. But we should fix it :)
Jannik
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"Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
I just reimplemented the EclipsePlugin.
It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence it is available on:
http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
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Ok, it is fixed.
Jannik
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I would vote with FAMIXEclipsePluginImport.
Cheers,
Doru
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On Jun 20, 2011, at 9:46 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I have no problem with the name. But we should fix it :)
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It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence it is available on:
http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
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I would also like to rename incomingReferences and outgoingReferences, the two instance
variables of FAMIXEclipsePlugin with incoming/outgoing EclipsePluginImport.
Is it ok for you ?
It should have an impact on the mse exporter (eg, verveineEclipse)
Jannik
On Jun 20, 2011, at 22:22 , Tudor Girba wrote:
I would vote with FAMIXEclipsePluginImport.
Cheers,
Doru
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On Jun 20, 2011, at 9:46 , Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
I have no problem with the name. But we should fix it :)
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It inherits from FamixEntity.
I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence it is available on:
http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
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ok for me
go ahead
nicolas
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Envoyé: Vendredi 24 Juin 2011 12:03:58
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Eclipse plugins
I would also like to rename incomingReferences and outgoingReferences,
the two instance variables of FAMIXEclipsePlugin with
incoming/outgoing EclipsePluginImport.
Is it ok for you ?
It should have an impact on the mse exporter (eg, verveineEclipse)
Jannik
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I would vote with FAMIXEclipsePluginImport.
Cheers,
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> I just reimplemented the EclipsePlugin.
> It inherits from FamixEntity.
> I also implemented a FAMIXEclipseReference that inherits from
> FAMIXReference.
FAMIXEclipseReference is for dependence between eclipse plugins?
If so, may be a better name could be found?
e.g. FamixEclipsePluginImport, FamixEclipsePluginDependence
I have no problem with the name. But we should fix it :)
Jannik
> it is available on:
> http://www.squeaksource.com/dsm/Famix-EclipsePlugin
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