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Stéphane Ducasse

25 Nov 2008 25 Nov '08

10:55 a.m.

Hi doru right now isAbstract and isPublic are in the Famix-Smalltalk and I think that they should be in core. After we could have isPackageProtected for Java in Famix-Java. Stef

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Alexandre Bergel

25 Nov 25 Nov

11:35 a.m.

But isPublic and isAbstract in Famix and Famix-Java (what is that by the way?) should not be the same. isPublic is inferred from incoming calls in Smalltalk, whereas in Java it is specified from the programmer. Alexandre On 25 Nov 2008, at 06:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

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Hi doru right now isAbstract and isPublic are in the Famix-Smalltalk and I think that they should be in core. After we could have isPackageProtected for Java in Famix-Java. Stef _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Stéphane Ducasse

2:22 p.m.

the idea is that we have a fmaix core and some extensions which can be packaged differently. So isAbstract et isPublic should be in core from my point of view. Stef On Nov 25, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

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Alexandre Bergel

2:41 p.m.

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So isAbstract et isPublic should be in core from my point of view.

I understood this. But Famix-Java should provide a different implementation of isPublic and isAbstract. I agree with you, these methods should be in the core. Cheers, Alexandre

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Stéphane Ducasse

6:12 p.m.

On Nov 25, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

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So isAbstract et isPublic should be in core from my point of view.

I understood this. But Famix-Java should provide a different implementation of isPublic and isAbstract.

No. I do not see why. isPublic return if a method field is public. in Smalltalk all methods are public and all attributes are protected. In java they are the way they are.

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I agree with you, these methods should be in the core. Cheers, Alexandre

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jannik.laval.gmail

28 Nov 28 Nov

5:38 p.m.

New subject: Text vertical

Hi Doru, In Mondrian, is it possible to make a text vertical in a Shape ? Thanks Jannik

Tudor Girba

29 Nov 29 Nov

12:27 p.m.

New subject: Text vertical

Hi, Nope. But, actually that should not be difficult to implement. You should look at the LabelShape class. Cheers, Doru On Nov 28, 2008, at 5:38 PM, jannik.laval.gmail wrote:

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Richard Wettel

1 Dec 1 Dec

12:37 p.m.

New subject: CodeCity 1.3 is out

Tudor Girba

11:25 p.m.

New subject: CodeCity 1.3 is out

Cool. I added a news item on the Moose webpage. Cheers, Doru On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Richard Wettel wrote:

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Dear Moose community, The new release of CodeCity adds support for evolution analysis, support for scripting visualizations, and more stylish configurations (thanks Doru!). Please have a look and tell me what you think. You can get it from: http://www.inf.unisi.ch/phd/wettel/codecity-download.html All the best, Ricky _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Simon Denier

25 Nov 25 Nov

3:02 p.m.

On 25 nov. 08, at 11:35, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

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But isPublic and isAbstract in Famix and Famix-Java (what is that by the way?) should not be the same. isPublic is inferred from incoming calls in Smalltalk, whereas in

Where is it inferred? I didnt see that in the importer code (either for famix2 or famix3) where any method is declared public by default. Could be another tool?

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Java it is specified from the programmer. Alexandre On 25 Nov 2008, at 06:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

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Alexandre Bergel

3:12 p.m.

I think that the class blueprint does it no? Cheers, Alexandre On 25 Nov 2008, at 11:02, Simon Denier wrote:

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On 25 nov. 08, at 11:35, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

But isPublic and isAbstract in Famix and Famix-Java (what is that by the way?) should not be the same. isPublic is inferred from incoming calls in Smalltalk, whereas in

Where is it inferred? I didnt see that in the importer code (either for famix2 or famix3) where any method is declared public by default. Could be another tool?

Java it is specified from the programmer. Alexandre On 25 Nov 2008, at 06:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

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Tudor Girba

3:28 p.m.

Hi, Indeed, isAbstract and isPublic should be in the Core. The blueprint indeed infers the private methods to be those methods that are called from inside the class. But, this is different from the isPublic field in the class. This field is to be populated by the parser. What the tools on top do with it, it is up to them. Cheers, Doru On Nov 25, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

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I think that the class blueprint does it no? Cheers, Alexandre On 25 Nov 2008, at 11:02, Simon Denier wrote:

On 25 nov. 08, at 11:35, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

But isPublic and isAbstract in Famix and Famix-Java (what is that by the way?) should not be the same. isPublic is inferred from incoming calls in Smalltalk, whereas in

Where is it inferred? I didnt see that in the importer code (either for famix2 or famix3) where any method is declared public by default. Could be another tool?

Java it is specified from the programmer. Alexandre On 25 Nov 2008, at 06:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

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