Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
Stef
Yes, I like the idea. Connecting visualizations with source code is often seen as difficult. Currently, in Mondrian, you cannot find a particular node, I mean that the scrollbar indexes are adjusted to show a particular elements. I will work on this soon. This is crucial.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 7 Apr 2011, at 15:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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I tried to make this easier with Moose Chef. When you see a dependency between classes, it's actually a dependency between methods and you have to retrieve the 'source' methods of this dependency to see the source code. I just need more people to test this API in practice.
On 7 avr. 2011, at 23:43, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Yes, I like the idea. Connecting visualizations with source code is often seen as difficult. Currently, in Mondrian, you cannot find a particular node, I mean that the scrollbar indexes are adjusted to show a particular elements. I will work on this soon. This is crucial.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 7 Apr 2011, at 15:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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I tried to make this easier with Moose Chef. When you see a dependency between classes, it's actually a dependency between methods and you have to retrieve the 'source' methods of this dependency to see the source code. I just need more people to test this API in practice.
I will have a deep look at Chef soon. I would like to assess the test coverage and increase it. We did this on Moose core. It was quite useful to understand it.
In the future, it is likely that a large part of my research will focus on testing, debugging, and profiling. So yes, I want to make our tools better.
Alexandre
On 7 avr. 2011, at 23:43, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Yes, I like the idea. Connecting visualizations with source code is often seen as difficult. Currently, in Mondrian, you cannot find a particular node, I mean that the scrollbar indexes are adjusted to show a particular elements. I will work on this soon. This is crucial.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 7 Apr 2011, at 15:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Yes, I like the idea. Connecting visualizations with source code is often seen as difficult. Currently, in Mondrian, you cannot find a particular node,
but when I pass the mouse on a node I could get a n announcement?
I mean that the scrollbar indexes are adjusted to show a particular elements. I will work on this soon. This is crucial.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 7 Apr 2011, at 15:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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You do get it. You can use in a Mondrian script. For example:
view interaction popupText: [:each | each sourceText]. view nodes: classGroup.
However, the problem is that the implementation of the preview is hard to manage for a reading scenario because you only get a fly-by-help.
Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:10, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Yes, I like the idea. Connecting visualizations with source code is often seen as difficult. Currently, in Mondrian, you cannot find a particular node,
but when I pass the mouse on a node I could get a n announcement?
I mean that the scrollbar indexes are adjusted to show a particular elements. I will work on this soon. This is crucial.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 7 Apr 2011, at 15:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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ok but could we have a simple one: just reaction to Enter event.
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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You can have that. The question is how this will be rendered, because you do not want a new window every time you press Enter.
Cheers, Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ok but could we have a simple one: just reaction to Enter event.
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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So like Preview, press enter to open, press enter again to close?
Simon
On 8 avr. 2011, at 09:34, Tudor Girba tudor.girba@gmail.com wrote:
You can have that. The question is how this will be rendered, because you do not want a new window every time you press Enter.
Cheers, Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ok but could we have a simple one: just reaction to Enter event.
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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Yes. But more important is that when you press other keys to scroll, the contents of the preview window gets changed.
Cheers, Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:48, Simon Denier wrote:
So like Preview, press enter to open, press enter again to close?
Simon
On 8 avr. 2011, at 09:34, Tudor Girba tudor.girba@gmail.com wrote:
You can have that. The question is how this will be rendered, because you do not want a new window every time you press Enter.
Cheers, Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ok but could we have a simple one: just reaction to Enter event.
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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For me I want something simple.
I have one window on the side and I see text in there. No press no opening, popup....
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Simon Denier wrote:
So like Preview, press enter to open, press enter again to close?
Simon
On 8 avr. 2011, at 09:34, Tudor Girba tudor.girba@gmail.com wrote:
You can have that. The question is how this will be rendered, because you do not want a new window every time you press Enter.
Cheers, Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ok but could we have a simple one: just reaction to Enter event.
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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Yes. This is what the Quick Look does :)
Doru
On 9 Apr 2011, at 09:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
For me I want something simple.
I have one window on the side and I see text in there. No press no opening, popup....
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Simon Denier wrote:
So like Preview, press enter to open, press enter again to close?
Simon
On 8 avr. 2011, at 09:34, Tudor Girba tudor.girba@gmail.com wrote:
You can have that. The question is how this will be rendered, because you do not want a new window every time you press Enter.
Cheers, Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ok but could we have a simple one: just reaction to Enter event.
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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On Apr 8, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
You can have that. The question is how this will be rendered, because you do not want a new window every time you press Enter.
As I said I open the spy and I see contents in it. When I close it I do not get a new window.
Stef
Cheers, Doru
On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ok but could we have a simple one: just reaction to Enter event.
Stef
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
This capability is on my wish list for a long time. In the context of Glamour I would like to have a mechanism like the Preview of Finder on Mac (when you press Space). Using this we would have the possibility to show a preview of whatever you want including source code.
Cheers, Doru
On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
now that we have announcements it should be easy to have a code spy: a window that when I browse any things in moose (being it a mondrian node, or a whatever stuff announcement event) I could see in the spy window the code of the entity. This way I could move hyperfast my mouse on a nice mondrian view and get immediately fats code overview wihtout having to click, spawn or wahtever action.
Do you like the idea? Because I always got frustrtaed with visualaition because I could not get that behavior in addition to the visualization.
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