16 Apr
2015
16 Apr
'15
5:03 p.m.
Hello.
I want to load mse file (238 MB) into Moose image and I want to download even bigger files
in the future. But the image crashed during the loading.
I tried to increase the size of image by adding the memory from command line ( --memory
4092; and even --memory 4190208), however the amount of “Space left” didn’t change.
Is there any way to solve this?
Best regards,
Natalia
16 Apr
16 Apr
5:18 p.m.
The practical limit is about 1Gb of data.
Pharo is currently 32-bit.
The Spur VM will start to change this.
On 16 Apr 2015, at 17:03, Natalia Tymchuk
<natalia.tymchuk(a)unikernel.net> wrote:
Hello.
I want to load mse file (238 MB) into Moose image and I want to download even bigger
files in the future. But the image crashed during the loading.
I tried to increase the size of image by adding the memory from command line ( --memory
4092; and even --memory 4190208), however the amount of “Space left” didn’t change.
Is there any way to solve this?
Best regards,
Natalia
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5:26 p.m.
Hi Natalia,
add this into your Pharo.ini
AddressSpaceLimit=2048
On Windows you will reach at least 1,6GB of image size. The problem is
that this could also crash at 1.2GB since zou computer must have "ONE
block" of memory available for the PharoVM. So for the beginning it
might be a good idea to have other application that are not really
needed closed.
And check your implementations and the garbage collection!
I find that I had trouble to load data since e.g. the Playground does
not really free the memory once you close a pane. So close playgrounds
that are not used, too.
I was able to load a 600Mb GIS shape file the other day and visualize it
with Roassal.... but in that case there is not much space for processing
anything left
the image becomes very unstable.
I currently try to use Gemstone and tODE onServerDo: blocks to find a
way around this.
As well as spwaning additional Pharo images, but I can't share anything yet.
Sebastian
Am 16.04.2015 um 08:03 schrieb Natalia Tymchuk:
Hello.
I want to load mse file (238 MB) into Moose image and I want to
download even bigger files in the future. But the image crashed during
the loading.
I tried to increase the size of image by adding the memory from
command line ( --memory 4092; and even --memory 4190208), however the
amount of “Space left” didn’t change.
Is there any way to solve this?
Best regards,
Natalia
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5:49 p.m.
Yuuu!!!!
Any screenshots you can share? :-)
Alexandre
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On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink
<sheidev(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
I was able to load a 600Mb GIS shape file the other day and visualize it with Roassal....
but in that case there is not much space for processing anything left
the image becomes very unstable.
5:58 p.m.
Unfortunately that is not possible. Sorry.
Am 16.04.2015 um 08:49 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Yuuu!!!!
Any screenshots you can share? :-)
Alexandre
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On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink
<sheidev(a)yahoo.de
<mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote:
I was able to load a 600Mb GIS shape file the other day and visualize
it with Roassal.... but in that case there is not much space for
processing anything left
the image becomes very unstable.
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17 Apr
17 Apr
3:07 p.m.
Hi.
On 16 Apr 2015, at 17:26, Sebastian Heidbrink
<sheidev(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
AddressSpaceLimit=2048
I don’t know what is Pharo.ini, however I found in Pharo Contents the file Info.plist and
there is
<key>SqueakMaxHeapSize</key>
<integer>536870912</integer>
I can increase the memory from 512 MB to 1074 MB, but if I want to put more than 1074 MB I
got the message
But 2048 MB is better )), so where I can find Pharo.ini?
Kind regards,
Natalia
3:53 p.m.
on windows?
may be in the same directory as the VM ?
pay attention however that pharo needs a CONTINUOUS block of memory.
So even if you have 4 G. of RAM in your computer, you may well be unable
to give more than 1G. to pharo
nicolas
On 17/04/2015 15:07, Natalia Tymchuk wrote:
Hi.
On 16 Apr 2015, at 17:26, Sebastian Heidbrink
<sheidev(a)yahoo.de
<mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote:
AddressSpaceLimit=2048
I don’t know what is Pharo.ini, however I found in Pharo Contents the
file Info.plist and there is
<key>SqueakMaxHeapSize</key>
<integer>536870912</integer>
I can increase the memory from 512 MB to 1074 MB, but if I want to put
more than 1074 MB I got the message
But 2048 MB is better )), so where I can find Pharo.ini?
Kind regards,
Natalia
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4:13 p.m.
Hi Natalia,
I have also experience the same. Increasing the memory raises this information popup.
Alexandre
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On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Natalia Tymchuk
<natalia.tymchuk(a)unikernel.net> wrote:
Hi.
On 16 Apr 2015, at 17:26, Sebastian Heidbrink
<sheidev(a)yahoo.de <mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote:
AddressSpaceLimit=2048
I don’t know what is Pharo.ini, however I found in Pharo Contents the file Info.plist and
there is
<key>SqueakMaxHeapSize</key>
<integer>536870912</integer>
I can increase the memory from 512 MB to 1074 MB, but if I want to put more than 1074 MB
I got the message
<Screen Shot 2015-04-17 at 14.43.13.png>
But 2048 MB is better )), so where I can find Pharo.ini?
Kind regards,
Natalia
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16 Apr
16 Apr
5:54 p.m.
Another problem is the structure of the FAMIX model.
The deep inheritance leads to leaf elements having too many instVars,
and the storage not being very memory efficient.
That leads to the model size blowing up.
Stephan
On 16-04-15 17:03, Natalia Tymchuk wrote:
Hello.
I want to load mse file (238 MB) into Moose image and I want to
download even bigger files in the future. But the image crashed during
the loading.
I tried to increase the size of image by adding the memory from
command line ( --memory 4092; and even --memory 4190208), however the
amount of “Space left” didn’t change.
Is there any way to solve this?
Best regards,
Natalia
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18 Apr
18 Apr
10:01 p.m.
Another problem is the structure of the FAMIX model.
The deep inheritance leads to leaf elements having too many instVars,
and the storage not being very memory efficient.
That leads to the model size blowing up.
Yes. Using dictionary would help and using
slots in the future too.
Stephan
On 16-04-15 17:03, Natalia Tymchuk wrote:
Hello.
I want to load mse file (238 MB) into Moose image and I want to
download even bigger files in the future. But the image crashed
during the loading.
I tried to increase the size of image by adding the memory from
command line ( --memory 4092; and even --memory 4190208), however the
amount of “Space left” didn’t change.
Is there any way to solve this?
Best regards,
Natalia
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10 p.m.
Natalia
- first Did you created this file from Moose from the Pharo extractor?
Because there are settings to filter what you want to extract.
- second I think that andre did some scripts to load models and save
them with less information.
Because it is rare to need all the information.
Stef
Le 16/4/15 17:03, Natalia Tymchuk a écrit :
Hello.
I want to load mse file (238 MB) into Moose image and I want to
download even bigger files in the future. But the image crashed during
the loading.
I tried to increase the size of image by adding the memory from
command line ( --memory 4092; and even --memory 4190208), however the
amount of “Space left” didn’t change.
Is there any way to solve this?
Best regards,
Natalia
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19 Apr
19 Apr
12:38 p.m.
Hello,
- first Did you created this file from Moose from the
Pharo extractor?
No, I used VerveineJ.
Because there are settings to filter what you want to
extract.
I’m interested in it. Where can I find the information about it?
- second I think that Andre did some scripts to load
models and save them with less information.
Because it is rare to need all the information.
Yes, I have this opportunity with
VerveineJ.
Kind regards,
Natalia
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