4 Dec
2013
4 Dec
'13
1:37 p.m.
Ok apparently I was not as clear as intended to.
a) Sorry about the buttons I completely missed them, so apparently the
functionality is there. I thought it was not there, My mistake.
b) About the color white yes, I have an issue there, let me be more
specific , I can barely see the scrollbars. I can't even find the scroll
area since everything is white.
c) Yes source code in the right side makes no sense to me. You have the
instance variables at the bottom and you waste so much space. why ? While
source code on the right crammed and the window will need to be expanded
for long lines. Also source code should be the center of the focus so it
should be in the center , this where the eye will dwell the most during
debugging. Instance variables should go at the right, source code at the
bottom.
d) Yes buttons could be bigger, I see no reason for them to be so small,
e) I would not mind to have a menu too at least for showing the keyboard
shortcuts.
Are there any new things that this debugger offers ?
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks :)
What do you mean with "it burns your eyes"? Do you refer to it being white?
In any case, I am happy that your main concerns seem to stem from less
conceptual issues like small buttons and layout. The less prominent buttons
do not worry me and they will likely not change because they are uniformly
treated like that in all the Glamour browsers - and thus you get easily
used to it.
The observation about the code is interesting, though. Should I understand
that you find that having the code on the right hand side is less intuitive
than having it at the bottom? Or is there something else you mean?
Cheers,
Doru
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I only briefly tried the Moose image for the
shake of trying Roassal. I
hope we talking about the same debugger.
All this white burns my eyes, very hard to concentrate on.
Source code is on the right side away from my central focus.
I could not find the proceed button , restart etc I see only a few
buttons.
Overall I dont like the debugger , I cant say I find anything that is
better than the one used by Pharo.
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Diego Lont <diego.lont(a)delware.nl>wrote;wrote:
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Hi,
I use the inspector a lot, and I am very happy with it. I am not sure I
use the debugger, I do not think so.
Inspector is very productive.
No big issues
I like it that it gives me a context sensitive view, this really makes
debugging faster.
Cheers,
Diego
On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Since a while, the Moose 5.0 image comes with GTDebugger and GTInspector
installed by default.
These tools are already useable, but there still is a long way to go.
For this, we need feedback. So:
- did you use any of them?
- first impression in one-two words (e.g., strange, useless,
frustrating, too white, funny, productive).
- what problems did you find?
- what did you like?
Cheers,
Doru
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