Ok apparently I was not as clear as intended to.

a) Sorry about the buttons I completely missed them, so apparently the functionality is there. I thought it was not there, My mistake.

b) About the color white yes, I have an issue there, let me be more specific , I can barely see the scrollbars. I can't even find the scroll area since everything is white. 

c) Yes source code in the right side makes no sense to me. You have the instance variables at the bottom and you waste so much space. why ? While source code on the right crammed and the window will need to be expanded for long lines. Also source code should be the center of the focus so it should be in the center , this where the eye will dwell the most during debugging. Instance variables should go at the right, source code at the bottom. 

d) Yes buttons could be bigger, I see no reason for them to be so small,

e) I would not mind to have a menu too at least for showing the keyboard shortcuts. 

Are there any new things that this debugger offers ? 



On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks :)

What do you mean with "it burns your eyes"? Do you refer to it being white?

In any case, I am happy that your main concerns seem to stem from less conceptual issues like small buttons and layout. The less prominent buttons do not worry me and they will likely not change because they are uniformly treated like that in all the Glamour browsers - and thus you get easily used to it.

The observation about the code is interesting, though. Should I understand that you find that having the code on the right hand side is less intuitive than having it at the bottom? Or is there something else you mean?

Cheers,
Doru




On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I only briefly tried the Moose image for the shake of trying Roassal. I hope we talking about the same debugger. 

All this white burns my eyes, very hard to concentrate on. 

Source code is on the right side away from my central focus.

I could not find the proceed button , restart etc I see only a few buttons.

Overall I dont like the debugger , I cant say I find anything that is better than the one used by Pharo.  


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Diego Lont <diego.lont@delware.nl> wrote:
Hi,

I use the inspector a lot, and I am very happy with it. I am not sure I use the debugger, I do not think so.

Inspector is very productive.

No big issues

I like it that it gives me a context sensitive view, this really makes debugging faster.

Cheers,
Diego

On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Since a while, the Moose 5.0 image comes with GTDebugger and GTInspector installed by default.

These tools are already useable, but there still is a long way to go. For this, we need feedback. So:
- did you use any of them?
- first impression in one-two words (e.g., strange, useless, frustrating, too white, funny, productive).
- what problems did you find?
- what did you like?

Cheers,
Doru

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