Of course, it is. In fact, a treemap is a better suited representation for
understanding the size of a file system.
Here it is:
[image: Inline image 1]
Cheers,
Doru
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:40 PM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible to use a tree map?
--Hannes
On 7/30/15, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:
I gave a try, and I did not find anything weird.
I guess your document folder contains many files, as Doru said
Alexandre
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> On Jul 30, 2015, at 5:51 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Frankly I dont mind big images or big data , neither I share the
obsession
> to shrink things down to few mbs in a time
that we are talking in TBs .
>
> Anyway you asked for the image and this is a link to it
>
>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wh1071xgoo54fq7/1%20Ephestos%2027-05-15.zip?dl=0
> <
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wh1071xgoo54fq7/1%20Ephestos%2027-05-15.zip?dl=0
>
> I dont think you will find anything abnormal about it though.
>
> I was wondering whether it would worth the effort beyond the unit tests
> that check for behaviour of the code to have also benchmark tests that
> will have to pass specific standards so that specific method must
perform
> under a strict timetable specific tasks, this
way CI may alert not only
> unit tests that fail but also benchmarks that fail , automagically.
>
> Maybe some food for thought.
>
> Personally I am far more worried how much CPU Pharo consumes than how
much
> RAM.
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:54 PM Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Not sure if there is any downside (I've been using it for a long time
> without problems), but image cleanup often does wonders for me.
>
> Moose image
> 410 MB => cleanup (World -> System -> Do Image Cleanup) => save =>
237
> MB
> and I even had situations where it went from ~600 MB to ~60 MB.
> (As to why my images are so massive... right now there are 19 windows
> opened inside most of them with opened roassal visualization... and I am
> saving like every five minutes... but that is just a guess.)
>
> But image cleanup is supposed to break things, so better to backup the
> folder first.
> Plus is cache really necessary? I mean it's a cache. .image + .changes
> should usually suffice.
>
> Peter
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <
kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>>
wrote:
> Tudor I dont know if you received my message but I already answered that
> with this:
>
> "ah ok then its normal. Yes the structure is extensive, its 13 folders
> (the rest 71 are files some of them very big), I would not be surprised
if
> each contains 100 files in its own
subfolders."
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:30 PM Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com
> <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> But, do you confirm that you have many files under the mentioned folder?
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <
kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>>
wrote:
> the image is 180 mb, changes are another 15, there are several other
> folders that raise the total size to 250 mb, monticello-cache and
> github-cache prodominately.
>
> Hmm ok my bad, the size of the zip is 89 MB not 200 mb. Still will take
me
> 1-2 hours to upload on this connection. So if
you guys still need the
> image i can upload tommorow from work, though it seems my slow down is
> normal.
>
> Afterall I am sure you can test it yourselves on complex file structures
> to see if it has delays as long as 20 minutes.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:01 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu
> <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote:
>
> > On 29 Jul 2015, at 21:33, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
> > <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > well i can send you the image tommorow because its huge (200 MB ziped)
> > for my pathetically slow internet connection at home. I will send it
> > from work which is 8 times faster.
>
> If the image is 200 MB zipped, how large is it in its normal state ?
>
> For me, a 100 MB image file is already quite large, that would compress
to
> maybe 20/30 MB.
>
> This doesn't sound right to me, unless you explicitly tried to store a
lot
> of data.
>
> Maybe something else is wrong that would explain the slowness.
>
> > I can tell you that I am on MacOS Yosemite , I get my image with
> > pharolauncher, the image was dowloaded at 27-07-15 some of the 84
items
> > are folders that contain many sub
folders. No idea if that matters.
> >
> > I got Roassal 2 using the Package Browser in Pharo 5 (the new
> > configuration browser).
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:17 PM Alexandre Bergel
> > <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote:
> > Are you using windows? I know it may has problems regarding the source
> > code. You have 84 items and the visualization is slow? How is this
> > possible.
> >
> > Can I have a look at your image?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Alexandre
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> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 29, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <
kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
> >>
<mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> thats ok it unfroze after 20 minutes or so . I managed to inspect
the
b
> >> but its incredible slow to navigate
and use . Even moving the
inspector
> >> around is incredible slow. My
Documents folder contains 84 items,
maybe
> >> it cant handle so well this amount
of datea ?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 5:55 PM Alexandre Bergel
> >> <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>>
wrote:
> >> Oh… sorry. Was not my intention
> >>
> >> Alexandre
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> >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 29, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <
kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
> >>>
<mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> that was a nice way to freeze my image, thank you :D
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:27 PM Alexandre Bergel
> >>> <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>>
wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> Just to share a couple of experiment. I have tried the following in
a
> >>> playground:
> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >>> b := RTMondrian new.
> >>>
> >>> b shape rectangle
> >>> if: [ :aFile | aFile path basename beginsWith: '.' ] color:
Color
> >>> red.
> >>> b nodes: FileLocator documents allChildren.
> >>> b edges connectFrom: #parent.
> >>> b normalizer
> >>> normalizeSize: #size using: #sqrt.
> >>> b layout tree.
> >>> b
> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >>>
> >>> It shows a tree of the file system. Thanks to GT, simply clicking
on a
>> file may show you the content and other
things.
>> <Screen Shot 2015-07-29 at 10.23.51 AM.png>
>>
>> You can also use the cluster layout:
>> <Screen Shot 2015-07-29 at 10.25.11 AM.png>
>>
>> I have tried this on OS X, since the pointed folder is ~/Documents.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
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