10 Jun
2011
10 Jun
'11
3:05 a.m.
Hi,
I updated the Protovis export method of Mondrian easel. Now it also works
with blueprint classes. One or more classes can be displayed (In the same
way as Mondrian). There are some examples in the next file:
www.santiagovidal.com.ar/MondrianProtovis/examples.zip
Now, also, the canvas is automatically re-sized when you drag an element out
of it.
Cheers
Santiago
2011/6/5 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>
Hi,
Pretty nice.
Just a note: Given that the size of the attachments is large, please put it
somewhere for us to download instead of sending them by mail directly. Use
Dropbox for example:
http://www.dropbox.com/
Cheers,
Doru
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Ok, that's the next step :)
Santiago
2011/6/4 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
Cool! Can you try a class blueprint?
Alexandre
On 3 Jun 2011, at 22:39, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> Hi,
> I committed the Mondrian extensions to support the HTML/Protovis file
generation. It took some time because I had some performances issues whit
dragging. Also, I had to use an external library to the tooltips because
Protovis only supports basic tooltips in a single line. Owing to these
problems some additional files are required to run the generated html (I'm
attaching these files).
> Currently the visitor only support the
generation of graphics with
rectangle nodes and edges. Specifically, inner nodes,
DistributionMap, and
system complexity. (I'm also attaching an example of each one)
> I gladly welcome your comments! ;)
> Cheers
> Santiago
>
> 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
> Looks good.
> Edges now
>
> Alexandre
>
> On 30 May 2011, at 16:03, Santiago Vidal wrote:
>
> > I have changed the implementation. Now you can click and drag the
inner
nodes. The new file is in the attachment.
> > Take care
> > Santiago
> >
> > 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
> > > Currently you can select an inner node but you can't drag it. That
is because the position of an inner node is determined by the position of
its parent. However, I think that the implementation could be change
properly.
> >
> > Ok, let us know
> >
> > Alexandre
> >
> > >
> > > 2011/5/30 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Looks good. However, I think there is a problem: the inner nodes do
drag together with the parent node, but I would also like to be able to
interact with the inner nodes (e.g., drag or click). Is this a conceptual
problem, or is it simple a missing implementation?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Doru
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30 May 2011, at 18:22, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry, the tittle is wrong. They are inner nodes. I use this
example code:
> > > > view nodes: (1 to: 5)
forEach: [:each |
> > > > view nodes: (1 to: each).
> > > > view gridLayout ]
> > > >
> > > > 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
> > > > Yes, this is what I see. But the image is named inner edges and I
do not see any edge.
> > > > An edge is a line
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Alexandre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 30 May 2011, at 11:12, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You should see this
> > > > > <InnerEdges.png>
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
> > > > > Good start!
> > > > > In innerEdgesExampleWithAbsolutePosition.html I do not see any
edge. Am I the only one? I use Safari and OSX.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you try with _large_ visualization? Try to import the whole
Moose and generate the visualizations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alexandre
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 30 May 2011, at 10:52, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I have been working in visualization examples of
complexity,
inner nodes, and distribution map. I used for these examples the
second
option that we discuss previously. The examples are in the attachment.
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Santiago
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2011/5/27 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should go for both options.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Start with 2, and for 1, you will create new
MondrianLayouts
that will only work directly with Protovis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Doru
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 27 May 2011, at 19:02, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know yet. In principle I'm going to
implement the
drag & drop behavior. In going to try to make an example using
the Mondrian
representation for Monday.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2011/5/27 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree with Alex, but I have a question: how do you
plan
to handle interactions, more specifically node replacement operations?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 27 May 2011, at 12:22, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I feel we should opt for 2).
> > > > > > > > We should export the visualization using
Protovis, not
recoding Mondrian in Protovis.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alexandre
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 27 May 2011, at 12:19, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > >> I have been working in the visualization of
the inner
nodes. In general I have 2 options to work with protovis:
> > > > > > > >>
• Be independent of the data by means of the use of
Protovis Layouts.
> > > > > > > >>
• Copy the same visualization that is used by
Mondrian. That is create a Protovis
canvas of the same size that the canvas
of Mondrian and place each shape in Protovis in the same location that in
the canvas of Mondrian.
> > > > > > > >> While
the first option is more modifiable than the
second, it implies the creation of new
layouts when they are needed.
> > > > > > > >> The
main advantage of the second option is that the
generated html file could be
interactive (such as the example that I send
before). However, it doesn't improve the graphics generated by Mondrian.
> > > > > > > >> What
do you think is the best option?
> > > > > > > >> Cheers
> > > > > > > >> Santiago
> > > > > > >
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