sorry for shouting and putting the mess. Here is my analysis of my idiot behavior So do not hesitate to send my stones. I think that there is something to consider our communication medium is email (at least for the people outisde of bern) and sometimes the communication is noisy.
doru
I think that I over reacted about the license. So may be I was stupid but may be this is also that the situation was really not clear. I'm trying to understand why I was so touched by the topic (beside been burnt by squeak over the last 4 years).
Here are some points: - fuzzy discussion on moose-dev - I was not aware that there is a moose and moose-dev I thought that moose was deprecated else I would have shout there :) - web site with a lot of unclear licenses (so may be this one could be fixed first) - GPL discussion in addition to creativecommons to BSD. - Not clear statement from an outsider about what were the parts touched by what. (may be this was said and I did not understand it as it should have).
I think that we should have a clear statement and position to solve that for the future. Here is a draft of the moose license that we could ask people to sign. Once you have the missing information, then I could ask the past moosers to sign it: sara, pierrick, hani, mathieu, damien and me.
Stef
On 25 nov. 07, at 16:32, Toon Verwaest wrote:
Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and would like to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a little bit less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory talk in ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time).
I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem.
cheers, Toon
On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote:
From: Orla Greevy greevy@iam.unibe.ch To: Related to the development of Moose and other related tools moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose without Meta? Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100
Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members,
Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I would like to know exactly what is going on with Moose. I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it would be good if we sit together and identify what the problems are and we solve them.
Cheers, Orla
On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote:
hi Doru
what is the first version of moose the old that was completely BSD? I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code with funny license in moose. I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the situation and the attitude of adrian. So if he wants to play alone and build a great system perfect. Now as a community we should react and I start to be really pissed off by such a childish atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other people what can I say.
I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will really do a campaign against moose and the foundation and all the shit around.
First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO DO
Stef
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