On 17 Sep 2019, at 10:23, Jannik Laval jannik.laval@gmail.com wrote:
Le 16 sept. 2019 à 22:02, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> a écrit :
This is not clear to me. you can save a model in Ston or other and you can query it in Moose.
What is Ston. I am not sure to know it.
Check the book you are author :) STON is textual serialisation format.
What are the size of your models because you can load them all and query them.
I would like to have a lazy loading. Not all the model.
This is not stroing in mongo that will give you that. You will have to change the loading of model parts and Moose does not support it.
In addition if you have a graph how to you specify that an entity that is referenced should not be loaded (transitively)
We are using Orion, which makes the model partial.
I do not get this.
In fact, we don’t need it for now, but we want to have this perspective.
Only suffer when really needed is my doctrine.
Jannik
to save it outside the image :)
But that you can do it in MSE, STON (with one line), Fuel,
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Le 16 sept. 2019 à 18:18, Anne Etien <anne.etien@univ-lille.fr mailto:anne.etien@univ-lille.fr> a écrit :
But you can query a model with MooseQuery. Why do you need something else?
Anne
Le 16 sept. 2019 à 18:04, Jannik Laval <jannik.laval@univ-lyon2.fr mailto:jannik.laval@univ-lyon2.fr> a écrit :
In fact, I need to save models and query them. I think we can do it with Gemstone. But I thought we can have something similar with MongoDB.
In fact, the point is « how to identify circular references » to avoid infinite loop in Voyage ?
Cheers
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Le 16 sept. 2019 à 17:24, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> a écrit :
I’m confused by what you want to do but you can try ston.
Stef
> On 16 Sep 2019, at 16:58, Jannik Laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com mailto:jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote: > > The idea is to use it at runtime. So need to make queries. > But the idea of MSE serialization is good. > > Now I don’t know how we can manage the serialization strategy of MSE with the one of Voyage… > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Enseignant-chercheur > Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet > IUT Lumière, Université Lumière Lyon 2 > laboratoire DISP > +33 4 78 77 43 06 > http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.jannik-laval.eu/ > http://www.phratch.com http://www.phratch.com/ > http://www.approchealpes.info http://www.approchealpes.info/ > >> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 16:46, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr mailto:nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr> a écrit : >> >> >> Hi, >> >> what is the goal? >> >> if it is only a backup store (to later retreive the entire model), you >> could try something similar to the MSE serialization (done with a >> visitor). >> So it would be a 1 level tree >> >> nicolas >> >> On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 15:22 +0200, Jannik Laval wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I am trying to save a moose model into MongoDB, using Voyage (Pharo >>> 7, Moose 8). >>> My problem is that it is not a tree. So I declared MooseEntity as >>> voyageRoot. >>> >>> Now, it seems I have a loop into my graph. >>> Do you have any idea of ho to debug that ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- >>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>> Enseignant-chercheur >>> Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet >>> IUT Lumière, Université Lumière Lyon 2 >>> laboratoire DISP >>> +33 4 78 77 43 06 >>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.jannik-laval.eu/ >>> http://www.phratch.com http://www.phratch.com/ >>> http://www.approchealpes.info http://www.approchealpes.info/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch mailto:Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> -- >> Nicolas Anquetil >> RMod team -- Inria Lille >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch mailto:Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch mailto:Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev
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