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which version of fame can I use to continue loading and coding on moose?
by Stéphane Ducasse 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

see above :) Stef

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[Fame for Squeak] Fame-Meta2Fame moved to FameUtil
by Adrian Kuhn 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

If you update Fame, you will find that the FAMIX migration script has been moved from Fame to FameUtil. cheers, AA

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Re: [Moose] Some problems when loading recent Moose Suite
by Tudor Girba 09 Sep '08

09 Sep '08

Hi, Thanks for the report. I know that MooseSuiteLoader parcel has problems connecting to our store for some strange reasons, but I do not have errors loading the latest version of Moose. If you want to try to load the latest version, please just load the package "Moose Config". This one has as prerequisites the various components of Moose. We usually set the "Load the latest Development" setting before loading. If you try it, please tell us if you still get the error. Cheers, Doru On Sep 8, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Holger Guhl wrote: > Hi, folks, > maybe I'm not the first one to mention, but I have some problems when > loading the recent Moose Suite using the MooseSuiteLoader parcel. I > got > two unloadable reports: >> Warning: Package "Clustering" cannot be loaded. >> >> The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are >> neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: >> ClusteringData (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) >> VectorItem (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.VectorDecorator) >> ClusteringVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.ArrayVector) >> DistanceSquare (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) >> CorrelationVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector) >> >> Warning: Package "SmallDudeUtils" cannot be loaded. >> >> The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are >> neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: >> BooleanSymetricMatrix (subclass of >> Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) >> BooleanVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector) >> BooleanMatrix (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Matrix) >> > I could fix it by manually loading LinearAlgebra > (2.1.72.matter.1,matter)= and then reload the packages listed above. I > hope it was correct to use the most recent versions. > The next problem I had was (after pressing the "Moose" button in the > VisualLauncher) > Unhandled exception: Key not found: > during SCG.Moose.MooseBrowser class>>buildHistoryIcon > The method wants to retrieve an icon from ToolbarIconLibrary. > This can easily be fixed: Just add UIPainter to the prerequisites. > > Best regards > > Holger Guhl > -- > Senior Consultant * Certified Scrum Master * Holger.Guhl(a)heeg.de > Tel: +49 231 9 75 99 21 * Fax: +49 231 9 75 99 20 > Georg Heeg eK Dortmund > Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Dortmund A 12812 > > _______________________________________________ > Moose mailing list > Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "Some battles are better lost than fought."

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Fwd: [Moose] Some problems when loading recent Moose Suite
by stephane ducasse 09 Sep '08

09 Sep '08

Begin forwarded message: > From: Holger Guhl <holger(a)heeg.de> > Date: September 8, 2008 5:56:47 PM CEDT > To: moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > Subject: [Moose] Some problems when loading recent Moose Suite > > Hi, folks, > maybe I'm not the first one to mention, but I have some problems when > loading the recent Moose Suite using the MooseSuiteLoader parcel. I > got > two unloadable reports: >> Warning: Package "Clustering" cannot be loaded. >> >> The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are >> neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: >> ClusteringData (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) >> VectorItem (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.VectorDecorator) >> ClusteringVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.ArrayVector) >> DistanceSquare (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) >> CorrelationVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector) >> >> Warning: Package "SmallDudeUtils" cannot be loaded. >> >> The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are >> neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: >> BooleanSymetricMatrix (subclass of >> Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) >> BooleanVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector) >> BooleanMatrix (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Matrix) >> > I could fix it by manually loading LinearAlgebra > (2.1.72.matter.1,matter)= and then reload the packages listed above. I > hope it was correct to use the most recent versions. > The next problem I had was (after pressing the "Moose" button in the > VisualLauncher) > Unhandled exception: Key not found: > during SCG.Moose.MooseBrowser class>>buildHistoryIcon > The method wants to retrieve an icon from ToolbarIconLibrary. > This can easily be fixed: Just add UIPainter to the prerequisites. > > Best regards > > Holger Guhl > -- > Senior Consultant * Certified Scrum Master * Holger.Guhl(a)heeg.de > Tel: +49 231 9 75 99 21 * Fax: +49 231 9 75 99 20 > Georg Heeg eK Dortmund > Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Dortmund A 12812 > > _______________________________________________ > Moose mailing list > Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose

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Quick Fame/FM3 question
by Itsme 06 Sep '08

06 Sep '08

Hi. I am quite interested in using this to have more explicit representation of my models, and get some of the boiler-plate bits like accessors for 2-way associations code-generated. Is there anything like a short tutorial to help get started? I don't expect to be doing fancy meta-meta things for some time. Thanks! -- Sophie

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Bug in FAMIX?
by Alexandre Bergel 06 Sep '08

06 Sep '08

Hi, | class | class := FAMIXClass new. class name: 'AClass'. class addToMethods: (FAMIXMethod new name: 'aMethod'; yourself). class addToMethods: (FAMIXMethod new name: 'anotherMethod'; yourself). (class mooseDescription allAttributes detect: [:p | p name == #methods]) getFrom: class The following code returns: an Array(an OrderedCollection(a FAMIXMethod #aMethod a FAMIXMethod #anotherMethod)) Shouldn't it be instead?: an OrderedCollection(a FAMIXMethod #aMethod a FAMIXMethod #anotherMethod) Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Re: [Moose] problem install
by Tudor Girba 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

Hi Fabrizio, The problem is that CodeCrawler is not maintained since several years and it probably does not work with the latest version of Moose. So, I do not have an answer for you :(. Cheers, Doru On Sep 5, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Fabrizio Faustinoni wrote: > > Ok, i found how to install codeCrawler, but , i alwas more error.... > can you help me? thx > > > From: fabry_00(a)hotmail.com > To: girba(a)iam.unibe.ch > Subject: RE: [Moose] problem install > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:07:40 +0200 > > Thanks,Thanks,Thanks,Thanks for the help!!!! > > So, i follow the instruction ( there was another error ( error.jpg > attached) i pushed continue, but i thing that it isn't important) (i > try to load internalRelease and after Development, i have always the > same error), after tathl i didn't see the codeCrawler Icon as in > this videohttp://www.inf.unisi.ch/faculty/lanza/codecrawler.html . > So, after, i try again to load MooseSuiteLoaderFromSCGStore again, > but ther'is the same error that i posted befor! > How do i install codeCrawler? > Thanks again!. > Fabrizio > > > > > CC: moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > From: girba(a)iam.unibe.ch > > To: fabry_00(a)hotmail.com > > Subject: Re: [Moose] problem install > > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:22:34 +0200 > > > > Hi Fabrizio > > > > Please try again, this time following the instructions from: > > http://moose.unibe.ch/download/scgstore > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > On Sep 5, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Fabrizio Faustinoni wrote: > > > > > Good Morning, I am a student of University of MILAN (italy) > > > (università degli studi milano bicocca), > > > I need to install CodeDrawler ( http://moose.unibe.ch/download?_s=lKodFeROpiPCfJhz&_k=KMXuKpsl&_n&80 > > > ), > > > I follow the seguent instruction ( http://moose.unibe.ch/download?_s=lKodFeROpiPCfJhz&_k=KMXuKpsl&_n&80 > > > ) for install visualWorks, but after that i load > > > MooseSuiteLoaderFromSCGStore.pcl ( from the file brower of > > > visualWorks), it asked me to "Download lastest moose suite > > > development Version", then i click OK, after some operations there > > > is an error (attached images ), i try to solve de error but i > > > failed! Can you help me? > > > THanx and sorry for my bad english. > > > Fabrizio > > > > > > Scopri i nuovi giochi per il tuo Messenger. Mettiti in gioco! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moose mailing list > > > Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > www.tudorgirba.com/blog > > > > "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will > > end up with a messy haircut." > > > > Foto, blog, amici. crea il tuo spazio online! C'è Spaces! > Scopri i nuovi giochi per il tuo Messenger. Mettiti in gioco! > <error2.JPG><error.JPG> -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."

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Fwd: [Moose] problem install
by stephane ducasse 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

Begin forwarded message: > From: Fabrizio Faustinoni <fabry_00(a)hotmail.com> > Date: September 5, 2008 9:21:23 AM CEDT > To: <moose(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Subject: [Moose] problem install > > Good Morning, I am a student of University of MILAN (italy) > (università degli studi milano bicocca), > I need to install CodeDrawler ( http://moose.unibe.ch/download?_s=lKodFeROpiPCfJhz&_k=KMXuKpsl&_n&80 > ), > I follow the seguent instruction ( http://moose.unibe.ch/download?_s=lKodFeROpiPCfJhz&_k=KMXuKpsl&_n&80 > ) for install visualWorks, but after that i load > MooseSuiteLoaderFromSCGStore.pcl ( from the file brower of > visualWorks), it asked me to "Download lastest moose suite > development Version", then i click OK, after some operations there > is an error (attached images ), i try to solve de error but i > failed! Can you help me? > THanx and sorry for my bad english. > Fabrizio > > Scopri i nuovi giochi per il tuo Messenger. Mettiti in gioco! > _______________________________________________ > Moose mailing list > Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose

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Re: [Moose] problem install
by Tudor Girba 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

Hi Fabrizio Please try again, this time following the instructions from: http://moose.unibe.ch/download/scgstore Cheers, Doru On Sep 5, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Fabrizio Faustinoni wrote: > Good Morning, I am a student of University of MILAN (italy) > (università degli studi milano bicocca), > I need to install CodeDrawler ( http://moose.unibe.ch/download?_s=lKodFeROpiPCfJhz&_k=KMXuKpsl&_n&80 > ), > I follow the seguent instruction ( http://moose.unibe.ch/download?_s=lKodFeROpiPCfJhz&_k=KMXuKpsl&_n&80 > ) for install visualWorks, but after that i load > MooseSuiteLoaderFromSCGStore.pcl ( from the file brower of > visualWorks), it asked me to "Download lastest moose suite > development Version", then i click OK, after some operations there > is an error (attached images ), i try to solve de error but i > failed! Can you help me? > THanx and sorry for my bad english. > Fabrizio > > Scopri i nuovi giochi per il tuo Messenger. Mettiti in gioco! > _______________________________________________ > Moose mailing list > Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

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tired....
by Stéphane Ducasse 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

So can somebody smart explain to me the following before in Squeak incomingInvocations was incomingInvocations incomingInvocations isNil ifTrue: [ incomingInvocations := OrderedCollection new ]. in oscar changes it is incomingInvocations <MSEProperty: #incomingInvocations type: #FAMIXInvocation opposite: #candidates> <mulivalued> <derived> ^ incomingInvocations values So what should I do. Because now I do not know! But I'm certainly stupid for sure. What I know is that this metastuff gets in our way. I do not care about reproducing complete code (which we cannot in FAME because lazy initialization and other useful code level idioms are not represented) and now instead of focusing on Moose I have to deal with meta representation concerns. Really I think that we got trapped there. Knowing where to stop is as important as doing it. Next time I will fight really hard against any smart cleaner cooler meta meta stuff. Which is sad because I know what I'm talking about. Stef

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