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what is NewDebugger?
by stepharo 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

Is it moose specific or pharo a configuration for pharo ? Is it the debugger with icons? Stef

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reviews?
by Alexandre Bergel 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

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Jenkins build is back to stable : moose-5.0 #1764
by admin＠moosetechnology.org 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

See <https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-5.0/1764/>

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Since you think that I could be ranting for nothing....
by stepharo 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Since you think that I could be ranting for nothing.... and these ones are the ones that do not freeze my system of course. ConfigurationOfFame ConfigurationOfAnnouncerCentricDebugger ConfigurationOfGTDebugger ConfigurationOfGToolkit ConfigurationOfGraphET ConfigurationOfHashTable ConfigurationOfGraphET2 ConfigurationOfGrease ConfigurationOfMagritte3 ConfigurationOfMerlin ConfigurationOfMetanool ConfigurationOfMooseAlgos ConfigurationOfNewDebugger ConfigurationOfPetitParser ConfigurationOfPetitSQLParser Educate yourselves: read them to get a feel of the simple part of Moose. Doru I do not know why I need the ignoreImage: but it was working before. Stef PS: why do we need artefact (GraphET2 uses it and NeoCSV to me this is wrong), XML, loaded into Moose by default ((ConfigurationOfGrease project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.1.10 [ConfigurationOfGrease] load : Grease-Core-JohanBrichau.86 load : Grease-Pharo30-Core-pmm.15 load : Grease-Slime-JohanBrichau.27) ((ConfigurationOfHashTable project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 2.0 [ConfigurationOfHashTable] load : Hashtable-SergeStinckwich.32) ((ConfigurationOfGToolkit project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 0.12-baseline [ConfigurationOfGToolkit] load : GT-Metaceller-Stream load : GT-Metaceller-Model load : GT-Metaceller-Tests load : GT-Setup explicit load : AnnouncerCentricDebugger load : ConfigurationOfAnnouncerCentricDebugger-AndreiChis.8 atomic load : 0.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfAnnouncerCentricDebugger] explicit load : GTDebugger load : ConfigurationOfGTDebugger-AndreiChis.3 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGTDebugger] explicit load : GTInspector load : ConfigurationOfGToolkit-TudorGirba.48 atomic load : 0.12-baseline [ConfigurationOfGToolkit] explicit load : DeepTraverser load : ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser-TudorGirba.1 atomic load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser] load : DeepTraverser explicit load : GlamourCore load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers load : Glamour-Tests-Core load : Glamour-Tests-Resources explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Roassal2 for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 load : Roassal2Spec explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Tests-Morphic load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : GT-Inspector explicit load : NewDebugger load : ConfigurationOfNewDebugger-AndreiChis.8 atomic load : 0.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfNewDebugger] load : DebuggerActions load : DebuggerModel load : DebuggerFilters load : DebuggerExtensions load : GT-Debugger load : ACD-Model load : ACD-Glamour-Interface explicit load : DeepTraverser load : ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser-TudorGirba.1 atomic load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser] load : DeepTraverser explicit load : GlamourCore load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers load : Glamour-Tests-Core load : Glamour-Tests-Resources explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Roassal2 for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 load : Roassal2Spec explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Tests-Morphic load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : GT-Tools load : GT-Tests-Inspector load : GT-Playground load : GT-Inspector load : GT-Metaceller-Glamour load : GT-InspectorExtensions-Core load : GT-Coder explicit load : PetitParser load : ConfigurationOfPetitParser-StephanEggermont.46 atomic load : 1.6-baseline [ConfigurationOfPetitParser] load : PetitParser load : PetitTests load : PetitAnalyzer load : PetitSmalltalk load : PetitCSV load : PetitJson load : PetitMSE load : PetitManifestMf load : PetitRegex load : PetitXml load : PetitXPath load : Factorial-Language explicit load : Glamour load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : PetitGui explicit load : GTDebugger load : ConfigurationOfGTDebugger-AndreiChis.3 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGTDebugger] explicit load : GTInspector load : ConfigurationOfGToolkit-TudorGirba.48 atomic load : 0.12-baseline [ConfigurationOfGToolkit] explicit load : DeepTraverser load : ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser-TudorGirba.1 atomic load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser] load : DeepTraverser explicit load : GlamourCore load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers load : Glamour-Tests-Core load : Glamour-Tests-Resources explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Roassal2 for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 load : Roassal2Spec explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Tests-Morphic load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : GT-Inspector explicit load : NewDebugger load : ConfigurationOfNewDebugger-AndreiChis.8 atomic load : 0.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfNewDebugger] load : DebuggerActions load : DebuggerModel load : DebuggerFilters load : DebuggerExtensions load : GT-Debugger load : GT-SUnitDebugger load : GT-PetitParserDebugger load : GT-GlamourDebugger) ((ConfigurationOfGlamour project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : ConfigurationOfMagritte3 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers load : Glamour-Tests-Core load : Glamour-Tests-Resources explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Roassal2 for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 load : Roassal2Spec explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Graph-ET2 load : ConfigurationOfGraphET2-PabloEstefo.26 linear load : 0.1 [ConfigurationOfGraphET2] explicit load : Roassal2 load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.0 [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 explicit load : RoassalPdfExporter2 load : ConfigurationOfRoassalPdfExporter2-PabloEstefo.18 linear load : 1.0 [ConfigurationOfRoassalPdfExporter2] explicit load : Artefact load : ConfigurationOfArtefact-OlivierAuverlot.14 linear load : 1.3 [ConfigurationOfArtefact] load : ConfigurationOfUnits linear load : 1.3 [ConfigurationOfArtefact] explicit load : Units load : ConfigurationOfUnits-GuillaumeLarcheveque.11 linear load : 1.2 [ConfigurationOfUnits] load : Units-Core-GuillaumeLarcheveque.5 load : Units-Tests-GuillaumeLarcheveque.2 load : Artefact-Core-OlivierAuverlot.249 load : Artefact-Tests-OlivierAuverlot.2 load : Artefact-Examples-OlivierAuverlot.2 load : RoassalPdfExporter2-PabloEstefo.36 explicit load : Neo load : ConfigurationOfNeoCSV-SvenVanCaekenberghe.12 linear load : 10 [ConfigurationOfNeoCSV] load : Neo-CSV-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.16 load : Neo-CSV-Tests-SvenVanCaekenberghe.15 load : GraphET2-PabloEstefo.59 explicit load : Magritte3 load : ConfigurationOfMagritte3-DiegoLont.95 linear load : 3.1.4 [ConfigurationOfMagritte3] explicit load : Grease load : ConfigurationOfGrease-StephanEggermont.272 linear load : 1.1.9 [ConfigurationOfGrease] load : Grease-Core-JohanBrichau.86 load : Grease-Pharo30-Core-pmm.15 load : Magritte-Model-DiegoLont.450 load : Magritte-Pharo3-Model-DamienCassou.2 load : Magritte-Tests-Model-DiegoLont.38 load : Magritte-Tests-Pharo-Model-lr.4 load : Magritte-Morph-SeanDeNigris.84 load : Magritte-Pharo3-Model load : Glamour-Magritte-Presentations explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Tests-Morphic load : Glamour-Tests-Roassal load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Tests-Rubric load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples) ((ConfigurationOfAnnouncerCentricDebugger project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 0.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfAnnouncerCentricDebugger] explicit load : GTDebugger load : ConfigurationOfGTDebugger-AndreiChis.3 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGTDebugger] explicit load : GTInspector load : ConfigurationOfGToolkit-TudorGirba.48 atomic load : 0.12-baseline [ConfigurationOfGToolkit] explicit load : DeepTraverser load : ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser-TudorGirba.1 atomic load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser] load : DeepTraverser explicit load : GlamourCore load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers load : Glamour-Tests-Core load : Glamour-Tests-Resources explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Roassal2 for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 load : Roassal2Spec explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Tests-Morphic load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : GT-Inspector explicit load : NewDebugger load : ConfigurationOfNewDebugger-AndreiChis.8 atomic load : 0.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfNewDebugger] load : DebuggerActions load : DebuggerModel load : DebuggerFilters load : DebuggerExtensions load : GT-Debugger load : ACD-Model load : ACD-Glamour-Interface) ((ConfigurationOfEyeSee project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfEyeSee] load : ConfigurationOfShapeST80 atomic load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfEyeSee] load : EyeSee-Events load : EyeSee-Axis load : EyeSee-Tests-Core load : EyeSee-Support explicit load : ShapeST80 load : ConfigurationOfShapeST80-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 1.2 [ConfigurationOfShapeST80] load : ShapeST80-TudorGirba.2 load : EyeSee-Core) ((ConfigurationOfFame project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 1.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfFame] explicit load : HashTable load : ConfigurationOfHashTable-SergeStinckwich.10 atomic load : 2.0 [ConfigurationOfHashTable] load : Hashtable-SergeStinckwich.32 explicit load : Phexample load : ConfigurationOfPhexample-StefanMarr.9 linear load : 1.2 [ConfigurationOfPhexample] load : Phexample-StefanMarr.70 load : Fame-Core load : Fame-Util load : Fame-ImportExport load : Fame-SmalltalkBinding load : Fame-Example load : Fame-Tests-Core) ((ConfigurationOfGTDebugger project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGTDebugger] explicit load : GTInspector load : ConfigurationOfGToolkit-TudorGirba.48 atomic load : 0.12-baseline [ConfigurationOfGToolkit] explicit load : DeepTraverser load : ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser-TudorGirba.1 atomic load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser] load : DeepTraverser explicit load : GlamourCore load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers load : Glamour-Tests-Core load : Glamour-Tests-Resources explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Roassal2 for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 load : Roassal2Spec explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Tests-Morphic load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : GT-Inspector explicit load : NewDebugger load : ConfigurationOfNewDebugger-AndreiChis.8 atomic load : 0.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfNewDebugger] load : DebuggerActions load : DebuggerModel load : DebuggerFilters load : DebuggerExtensions load : GT-Debugger) ((ConfigurationOfGraphET project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens) ((ConfigurationOfGraphET2 project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 0.1 [ConfigurationOfGraphET2] explicit load : Roassal2 load : ConfigurationOfRoassal2-AlexandreBergel.5 linear load : 1.0 [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 explicit load : RoassalPdfExporter2 load : ConfigurationOfRoassalPdfExporter2-PabloEstefo.18 linear load : 1.0 [ConfigurationOfRoassalPdfExporter2] explicit load : Artefact load : ConfigurationOfArtefact-OlivierAuverlot.14 linear load : 1.3 [ConfigurationOfArtefact] load : ConfigurationOfUnits linear load : 1.3 [ConfigurationOfArtefact] explicit load : Units load : ConfigurationOfUnits-GuillaumeLarcheveque.11 linear load : 1.2 [ConfigurationOfUnits] load : Units-Core-GuillaumeLarcheveque.5 load : Units-Tests-GuillaumeLarcheveque.2 load : Artefact-Core-OlivierAuverlot.249 load : Artefact-Tests-OlivierAuverlot.2 load : Artefact-Examples-OlivierAuverlot.2 load : RoassalPdfExporter2-PabloEstefo.36 explicit load : Neo load : ConfigurationOfNeoCSV-SvenVanCaekenberghe.12 linear load : 10 [ConfigurationOfNeoCSV] load : Neo-CSV-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.16 load : Neo-CSV-Tests-SvenVanCaekenberghe.15 load : GraphET2-PabloEstefo.59) ((ConfigurationOfMetanool project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfMetanool] load : ConfigurationOfMagritte3 atomic load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfMetanool] explicit load : Magritte3 load : ConfigurationOfMagritte3-DiegoLont.95 linear load : 3.1.4 [ConfigurationOfMagritte3] explicit load : Grease load : ConfigurationOfGrease-StephanEggermont.272 linear load : 1.1.9 [ConfigurationOfGrease] load : Grease-Core-JohanBrichau.86 load : Grease-Pharo30-Core-pmm.15 load : Magritte-Model-DiegoLont.450 load : Magritte-Pharo3-Model-DamienCassou.2 load : Magritte-Tests-Model-DiegoLont.38 load : Magritte-Tests-Pharo-Model-lr.4 load : Magritte-Morph-SeanDeNigris.84 explicit load : Fame load : ConfigurationOfFame-SergeStinckwich.25 atomic load : 1.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfFame] explicit load : HashTable load : ConfigurationOfHashTable-SergeStinckwich.10 atomic load : 2.0 [ConfigurationOfHashTable] load : Hashtable-SergeStinckwich.32 explicit load : Phexample load : ConfigurationOfPhexample-StefanMarr.9 linear load : 1.2 [ConfigurationOfPhexample] load : Phexample-StefanMarr.70 load : Fame-Core load : Fame-Util load : Fame-ImportExport load : Fame-SmalltalkBinding load : Fame-Example load : Fame-Tests-Core load : Metanool-Core load : Metanool-Tests-Core) ((ConfigurationOfMagritte3 project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 3.1.4 [ConfigurationOfMagritte3] explicit load : Grease load : ConfigurationOfGrease-StephanEggermont.272 linear load : 1.1.9 [ConfigurationOfGrease] load : Grease-Core-JohanBrichau.86 load : Grease-Pharo30-Core-pmm.15 load : Magritte-Model-DiegoLont.450 load : Magritte-Pharo3-Model-DamienCassou.2) ((ConfigurationOfMerlin project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfMerlin] load : Merlin) ((ConfigurationOfMooseAlgos project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 2.5-baseline [ConfigurationOfMooseAlgos] load : Moose-Algos-Graph load : Moose-Tests-Algos-Graph load : Moose-Algos-HierarchicalGraph load : Moose-Tests-Algos-HierarchicalGraph load : Moose-Tests-Algos-InformationRetrieval load : Moose-Algos-FormalConceptAnalysis load : Moose-Tests-Algos-FormalConceptAnalysis load : Moose-Algos-Lattice load : Moose-Tests-Algos-Lattice load : Moose-Algos-LinearAlgebra load : Moose-Tests-Algos-LinearAlgebra load : Moose-Algos-Clustering load : Moose-Algos-InformationRetrieval load : Moose-Tests-Algos-Clustering load : Moose-Algos-Kontractor load : Moose-Tests-Algos-Kontractor explicit load : DeepTraverser load : ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser-TudorGirba.1 atomic load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfDeepTraverser] load : DeepTraverser load : Moose-Algos-GraphObjectTraverser load : CollectionExtensions) ((ConfigurationOfNewDebugger project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 0.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfNewDebugger] load : DebuggerActions load : DebuggerModel load : DebuggerFilters load : Spec-Debugger) ((ConfigurationOfPastell project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfPastell] explicit load : XMLParser load : ConfigurationOfXMLParser-DiegoLont.62 linear load : 1.6.4 [ConfigurationOfXMLParser] explicit load : XMLWriter load : ConfigurationOfXMLWriter-monty.52 linear load : 2.3.9 [ConfigurationOfXMLWriter] explicit load : OrderPreservingDictionary load : ConfigurationOfOrderPreservingDictionary-monty.6 linear load : 1.1 [ConfigurationOfOrderPreservingDictionary] load : Collections-OrderPreservingDictionary-monty.9 load : XML-Writer-Core-monty.15 load : XML-Writer-Tests-monty.2 explicit load : BitmapCharacterSet load : ConfigurationOfBitmapCharacterSet-StephaneDucasse.6 linear load : 1.1 [ConfigurationOfBitmapCharacterSet] load : Collections-BitmapCharacterSet-Anonymous.6 explicit load : OrderPreservingDictionary load : ConfigurationOfOrderPreservingDictionary-monty.6 linear load : 1.1 [ConfigurationOfOrderPreservingDictionary] load : Collections-OrderPreservingDictionary-monty.9 load : XML-Parser-monty.228 load : XML-Tests-Parser-monty.58 load : Pastell-Base load : Pastell-Tests) ((ConfigurationOfPetitParser project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 1.6-baseline [ConfigurationOfPetitParser] load : PetitParser load : PetitTests load : PetitAnalyzer load : PetitSmalltalk load : PetitCSV load : PetitJson load : PetitMSE load : PetitManifestMf load : PetitRegex load : PetitXml load : PetitXPath load : Factorial-Language explicit load : Glamour load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : PetitGui) ((ConfigurationOfPetitSQLParser project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : atomic load : 1.3-baseline [ConfigurationOfPetitSQLParser] explicit load : PetitParser for PetitSQLParser load : ConfigurationOfPetitParser-StephanEggermont.46 atomic load : default [ConfigurationOfPetitParser] load : PetitParser load : PetitTests load : PetitAnalyzer load : PetitSmalltalk load : PetitCSV load : PetitJson load : PetitMSE load : PetitManifestMf load : PetitRegex load : PetitXml load : PetitXPath load : Factorial-Language explicit load : Glamour load : ConfigurationOfGlamour-TudorGirba.145 atomic load : 2.9-baseline [ConfigurationOfGlamour] load : Glamour-Announcements load : Glamour-Helpers load : Glamour-Core load : Glamour-Presentations load : Glamour-Browsers explicit load : Roassal for Glamour load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Graph-ET load : ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 linear load : 0.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfGraphET] load : Graph-ET explicit load : Roassal load : ConfigurationOfRoassal-AlexandreBergel.1194 linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens explicit load : Spotlight2 load : ConfigurationOfSpotlight2-SeanDeNigris.2 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfSpotlight2] explicit load : ActiveTutor load : ConfigurationOfActiveTutor-SeanDeNigris.1 linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfActiveTutor] load : ActiveTutor load : Spotlight2 load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer load : Glamour-Roassal-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Pager explicit load : Rubric load : ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.3 atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfRubric] load : Rubric load : Glamour-Rubric-Presentations load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme load : CollectionExtensions load : Glamour-Tools load : Glamour-GraphET-Presentations load : Glamour-Examples load : PetitGui load : PetitSQLite-Parser load : PetitSQLite-AST load : PetitSQLite-Tests-Parser) ((ConfigurationOfRoassal project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 0.7-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal] load : Roassal load : RoassalMorphic load : RoassalExtras load : RoassalAthens) ((ConfigurationOfRoassal2 project version: #development) ignoreImage: true; record) a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.1-baseline [ConfigurationOfRoassal2] load : Trachel load : Roassal2 load : Roassal2Spec)

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Re: snapshotcello ConfigurationOfMoose problems
by Stephan Eggermont 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Hi Stef, What exactly are you trying to achieve here? Adding more flattened snapshots to the ConfigurationOfMoose is i.m.o. not a good idea. I've never found snapshotted versions useable for development. Within a week there were incompatible changes that break the snapshot version. Snapshots can be a valuable artifact, and should be separate from configurations. Stephan

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Re: Point one
by Stephan Eggermont 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Steph, please try this with ConfigurationOfPharo first. You have much more control over that, and it will allow you to break the tools fast without bothering others. We use ConfigurationOfMoose. >When you develop you want to always get the latest (and certainly not on >project you have no control over). You want to, but you can't. And you definitely don't want to have to create all kinds of configuration versions of packages outside your control just to be able to load. I would like to include Torch. Doesn't work with latest. Cleaning up of moose configuration is much appreciated. You probably want to add some groups, so you can have your tools. Stephan

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Record problems fixed
by stepharo 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Hi Usman found that mooseDSM depends on Moose and that Moose depends on DSM. This shows a problem with the configurations in the Moose ecosystem. After thinking about it, there are two kinds of configurations: - first kind of a configuration should express the dependencies to systems that are mandatory. - the second kind represents "Full project" configurations that express a complete "applications" with all the subapplications. They do not express that the tool must all the dependencies to be resolved to work. For example, MooseAlgos are in Moose even if we do not use MooseAlgos. Such full project should not be referred too. => So we should distinguish such different configurations. For example Glamour as a UI builder should not depend on Roassal But Glamour as a full project can depend on Roassal. Then at the Moose or project level we can decide what to load. Stef

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Re: Point one
by Stephan Eggermont 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Guille wrote >Just a thought, maybe offtopic, >but that goes in the modularity path... >What about adding also a new ´moose´ tab >to the configuration browser showing only >moose sub-products? configuration browser first needs something to be able to load Seaside with Magritte. We regularly get complaints about that. A separate tab for Moose doesn't make much sense. Configuration browser is for ease of use, so configurations should provide a list of sensible (to an end user) groups that the browser can use. Stephan

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Re: Point one
by Stephan Eggermont 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Steph wrote: >If necessary we will build a tool that does is automatically. Releasing >a real fixed version is important. >I'm sorry stefan but we want FULL reproducibility. A snapshot is a separate concept from a configuration. Building a separate tool to create snapshots is a good idea. A snapshot should know about a configuration but not the other way around. The problem we run into is that we use configuration A that depends on version B1 of a configuration, and another configuration C that depends on version B2. So we need to create a new configuration version of A, even though A is not interested in C. To make that work dependent configurations would need to change at the sum of change rate of all the configurations they are depending on. As long as we don't have global flow (in the lean sense) that is unworkable. >We cannot sign contracts when we maintain deployed systems by just >saving images and preying. Yes. Make snapshots. And a good experiment to get tools improved would be to add a ConfigurationOfPharo build that creates a version for each build. I suspect some scalability issues. Stephan

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Re: Point one
by Stephan Eggermont 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Steph wrote: > - make sure that all the configurations of external libraries are >correctly defined. > In particular we made sure that a version does not depend on a >stable one but on a version specific. I would recommend against using detailed numbered versions for this. That couples you to bug fix patches/updates in the external libraries and creates a very high versioning effort. In Seaside we use release3 release30 release31 instead of stable. Release3 introduced a different packaging, and 31 has some interface changes. We can now safely promote a new version to stable without having to update all configurations using seaside. This reduces the versioning effort, at some loss in reproducibility. For that, separate snapshots are perfect. Cheers, Stephan

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