Moose-dev January 2015

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Auto-updating the browser while changing tags without revisiting nodes on a tree
by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 06 Feb '15

06 Feb '15

Hi, I'm working on my project Grafoscopio, to provide a outliner/notebook like experience to write and visualize data. Details can be found on [1]. [1] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-ini… I want to create modal nodes by tagging them, so If I mark a node like code it can behave like a workspace and execute code. You can see a small demo of this feature on [2] [2] https://archive.org/details/grafoscopio-tags-alpha1.mp4 My code for tagging nodes is this: ==[a]============================================= UI>>addTagsTo: a Node "Tags the node passed as argument with a value from the collection of tags available" | selection | tagsAvailable isNil ifFalse: [ selection := UIManager default chooseFrom: tagsAvailable title: 'Elija una etiqueta'. aNode tagAs: (tagsAvailable at: selection) ] ifTrue: [self messageNoTagsAvailable]. browser update. ================================================= But I have three questions: i. How Can I update the nodes views/behaviour without revisiting them? The code in [a] is updating the node trees, but not the particular node views. ii. How can I made the code in a node tagged as "code" get executed? iii. Can I embed playgrounds instead of workspaces in a browser pane, with the possibility to explore objects and get more details about them? Thanks, Offray

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VerveineJ download
by Andrea Caracciolo 06 Feb '15

06 Feb '15

Hi, Is it still possible to download verveineJ for free ? I tried: svn checkout svn://scm.gforge.inria.fr/svn/verveinej But it now seems to require special permissions. Creating an account at InriaForge does not seem to solve the problem. Can you help me? P.S: the moose book ( http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/import-export/external/verveineJ) points to a broken link (http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/verveinej) Cheers, Andrea Caracciolo _____________________________ Software Composition Group University of Bern

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How do I store the rhs of an assignation
by Damien Cassou 06 Feb '15

06 Feb '15

Hi, I'm working on analyzing Python source-code with Moose. In Python, one can write: import re as regex and this means "declare a local variable named 'regex' and put a reference to the PyModule named 're' inside". How can I model that in the mse file please? Thanks -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

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Re: FAMIXClass does not understand parameterizedTypes
by Stephan Eggermont 02 Feb '15

02 Feb '15

Could you try with .76? Problem could also be in 74. Working on our presentation for monday, no time to look into it deeply now. Stephan & Diego

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Iceberg metaphor for writing/dataviz or How to avoid revisiting nodes in a tree for getting proper updating of browsers?
by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 31 Jan '15

31 Jan '15

Hi all, I'm advancing at making my interactive notebook for open/garage/citizen research & science in Moose called Grafoscopio[0]. This are baby steps towards an alternate approach to what Andrei, Jan and Doru are trying [1][2] for documentation, that begins with a document tree inside the image and "projects" the files (markdown by traversing the tagged tree and then latex and html, via pandoc and pdf via pdftex/luatex). In this way you can have a complete interactive document (book size) inside the image, stored/shared/versioned in the lightweight STON with arbitrary levels of deepness and only think about files when you are exporting to pdf or intermediate formats. Also I think that this solution is easier to run on Windows that Pillar Book Skeleton. [0] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Offray/Grafoscopio [1] http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/writing-pillar-books-with-the-gtinspe… [2] http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/creating-custom-browsers-out-of-inspe… Markdown (pandoc's variant) express only the surface of the writing, while deeper structure is stored in the image and STON. I call this the "iceberg metaphor" for writing and data visualization, so instead of WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) of common word processors you have WYSIOTSOWYH (What You See Is Only The Surface Of What You Have) which is what happens with most of the time and the common word processing and file oriented metaphors can capture/express. New metaphors for writing are needed if we want to bootstrap more open/inclusive ways to do science and research, coming not only from academia but also from non canonical places like citizens and garages, maker/hacker spaces. Here is a small video of how interface looks today, which allow me to introduce some practical questions on how to deliver this vision: https://archive.org/details/grafoscopio-tags-alpha1.mp4 As you can see, I can tag a node as code (código) and the node view and behaviour gets updated after revisiting the node, providing auto-completion and syntax highlighting, so: 1. There is any way to get the node view/behaviour updated instantly without the need to revisit the node? 2. When I press the accept icon I don't get the code executed, even if I selected all previously. There is any way to get the code executed? 3. My idea in the future is to make the node view of the tree at the right side a complete playground instead of a workspace, with their emergent lateral panels when an object is selected. There is any way to embed a playground in a browser pane or any plan to implement this feature? 4. At the very end of the video you see the trace of an error that is raised when I select and empty part of the tree. This is the most annoying behaviour and can create lost of information if you have write a node and not saved the tree just before clicking and empty tree space. I imagine that this can be solved with a "when:" message that can be used to tell the browser only to show something in the right if there is something selected at the left. I will try to debug this, but any pointer in the right direction would be appreciated. It has been a pleasure to work with Pharo and Moose for this project. Is a very empowering platform to express ideas about how interactive documentation could be done, among other things and the community is welcoming and awesome! Thanks, Offray ps: attached is the ston file for the document used in the video).

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gt poster
by Tudor Girba 29 Jan '15

29 Jan '15

Hi, Here is a poster for GT. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

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Away until Feb 22, 2015
by Alexandre Bergel 29 Jan '15

29 Jan '15

Dear All, I am personally away and near-to-be offline until Feb 22. I am sending this rather personal email since there are many questions about Roassal these days. The Object Profile team is highly competent and they will offer a great support! Happy Pharo days! Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Glamour Roassal presentations
by Yuriy Tymchuk 29 Jan '15

29 Jan '15

Hi. So to have glamour roassal presentations, do I have to load a specific package from the glamour repo, or there is a more gentle way (because I don’t like peeking packages form remote repos) Uko

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TROSMTileProvider
by Sven Van Caekenberghe 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hi Thierry, Onil, First let me iterate what I wrote last week, the OSM stuff in Roassal is very cool, very well written. Great work. Since I have some experience with OSM maps, tiles and serving them, I had a look to see if I could optimise the tile drawing/loading, which is visibly a bit slow, one would assume because of the loading of the tiles over the network. I just committed (based on code that I wrote some time ago): === Name: Roassal2-SvenVanCaekenberghe.719 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 28 January 2015, 2:31:50.462461 pm UUID: 0978fb6a-d6d0-4d86-a9ae-1f2f83a0b6a2 Ancestors: Roassal2-AlexandreBergel.718 Experimental branch. Introduction of TROSMTileProvider to optimize getting OSM tiles, adds one shared memory cache and a local file system cache, predefines and reuses 6 http clients spread over different hosts. Modifies TROSMShape>>#getTile: and adds TROSMShape>>#tileNamed: === The strange thing is though, that I can optimise the loading (as benchmarked separately), but in most cases (not when they are in the memory cache, but when they are in the file cache) the drawing still has the same pauses as before - which I don't understand, at all. But it is a bit hard to explain. Anyway, Thierry, I will see you tomorrow and the day thereafter and I hope I can show you what I mean. Regards, Sven

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Associations on Grapher interaction
by Yuriy Tymchuk 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hi, I was a bit busy, so I’ve missed the new Grapher release. Now I’m converting my code from Charter to Grapher and I encounter one problem: as points in a data set I use my objects non of which are associations. And I have a popup interaction defined for them. Now sometimes when I hover I get DNU because an association does not understand my object’s method. Where do these associations come from? Uko

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