Moose-dev July 2009

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Importing eclipse in Infusion
by Simon Denier 24 Jul '09

24 Jul '09

Hi Did anyone succeed with importing a full eclipse SDK (3.5) source code in Infusion? I tried yesterday and after several hours it was clear it was going nowhere: I could just see the progress bar, stucked at 0, while my processor was always running at some 20/30% for Infusion. Granted, I did go the brute way, downloading the SDK, unpacking all jars to get the java source files, then running Infusion on the folders. So any hints or pointers on how to proceed from here would help :) -- Simon

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Notes for the coming months....
by Stéphane Ducasse 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Here are the notes of the Moose meeting Cyrille, Stef, Jannik, Simon - First goal: Moose should be usable. - load save filtering what is saved and what should be loaded mse - get Distribution Map PackageBlueprint working on PhaMoose - We should use systematically the bugtracker available at: http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/ - We need a moose documentation. Now we cannot afford writing it. We will select some tests and tagged them with a pragma and use this pragma to indicate that the tests is a documentation tests. Documentation will have comment and show user scenario. - Tests should be cleaned/reorganized - Profiling Moose - use of hashtable instead of Dictionary to see if we can go faster - faster sets? - SmallDictionary? - Run SmallLint on Moose and update methods with pragmas - Comment in classes - in Fame classes also - We should get a release process - Stable Moose version May be we should have a Moose and Moose Public repository - Need a Browser based on Glamour Check VW Check new VW browser made by doru IO Selection/Filter -> Group Property displayed Actions on selection - Mondrian Exporter as PNG - Mondrian caches - Moose is too slow to load - package info - MC 1.5 speed up

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C++ systems to study
by Alberto Bacchelli 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Hi, I need to study one (or more) C++ systems. However, due to the macro definition issue, it is quite long (and the results can be approximate) to generate the mse files using iPlasma (or also inFusion), if you want to analyze a C++ system that you don't know. For this reason, I was wondering if there's somebody who can share the mse files of C++ systems with me. The ideal situation is a system big enough to have a bug reporting system (e.g. bugzilla) and a mailing list. Thank you in advance, Alberto

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problem loading moose
by stephane ducasse 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Hi all I tried to load moose I changed MooseLoader to have now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if necessary) Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning phase when I load Mondrian Can one of you try to reproduce the problem MooseLoader loadMondrian

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do you think that this is easy to remove the dependency with smacc
by Stéphane Ducasse 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

and use plain smalltalk code for queries? [:each | each named = #sozr and: []] Stef

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Problem importing an MSE file
by Alberto Bacchelli 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Hi everybody, I created a few MSE files from JRuby releases using iPlasma 6.1 However, when I try to import them in Moose (I am using Visualworks 7.6nc at the moment), on the most recent releases I get the following exception: "Unhandled exception: Unknown character". The first releases are correctly imported in Moose. If you want to help me with this problem, you find an example of a problematic MSE here : http://www.inf.unisi.ch/phd/bacchelli/research/20080720_jruby-1.1.3.mse and an example of a not-problematic MSE here : http://www.inf.unisi.ch/phd/bacchelli/research/20060802_jruby-0.9.0.mse Thank you, Alberto

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problem with mondrian
by stephane ducasse 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Hi all can one of you try to the following on 10388 my image freezes completely. MooseLoad loadMondrian Stef

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Fwd: [SEWORLD] Call for Papers: Evaluation and Usability of Programming Languages and Tools (PLATEAU) 2009
by Alexandre Bergel 22 Jul '09

22 Jul '09

I like the idea of this workshop. If someone is going to OOPSLA this year, this may be interesting. If someone plan to go there, let me know. Cheers, Alexandre Begin forwarded message: > From: Shane Markstrum <smarkstr(a)acm.org> > Date: 20 July 2009 16:40:22 GMT-04:00 > To: types-announce(a)lists.seas.upenn.edu, seworld(a)sigsoft.org, announce(a)aosd.net > , chi-announcements(a)LISTSERV.ACM.ORG, hci-link(a)lists.uni-paderborn.de > Subject: [SEWORLD] Call for Papers: Evaluation and Usability of > Programming Languages and Tools (PLATEAU) 2009 > > Call for Papers > > PLATEAU 2009 > > First Workshop on > Evaluation and Usability of Programming Languages and Tools (PLATEAU) > in conjunction with Onward!/OOPSLA 2009 > October 25-29, 2009 (Orlando, FL) > > http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/Events/PLATEAU/WebHome > > SUBMISSION SITE > > http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=plateau09 > > IMPORTANT DATES > > Submission August 31 > Notification Mid-September (before close of early registration for > OOPSLA/Onward!) > Final version TBA > Workshop TBA, one-half or one-full day between October 25 and 29 > > SCOPE > > Programming languages exist to enable programmers to develop software > effectively. But how efficiently programmers can write software > depends on the usability of the languages and tools that they develop > with. The aim of this workshop is to discuss methods, metrics and > techniques for evaluating the usability of languages and language > tools. The supposed benefits of such languages and tools cover a large > space, including making programs easier to read, write, and maintain; > allowing programmers to write more flexible and powerful programs; and > restricting programs to make them more safe and secure. > > We plan to gather the intersection of researchers in the programming > language, programming tool, and human-computer interaction communities > to share their research and discuss the future of evaluation and > usability of programming languages and tools. We are also interested > in the input of other members of the programming research community > working on related areas, such as refactoring, design patterns, > program analysis, program comprehension, software visualization, > end-user programming, and other programming language paradigms. Some > particular areas of interest are: > > - empirical studies of programming languages > - methodologies and philosophies behind language and tool evaluation > - software design metrics and their relations to the underlying > language > - user studies of language features and software engineering tools > - visual techniques for understanding programming languages > - critical comparisons of programming paradigms, such as > object-oriented vs. functional > - tools to support evaluating programming languages > > SUBMISSIONS > > Participants are invited to submit a position paper describing their > on going work. We will accept papers (from 4 to 6 pages) that describe > work-in-progress or recently completed work based on the themes and > goals of the workshop or related topics, report on experiences gained, > question accepted wisdom, raise challenging open problems, or propose > speculative new approaches. Longer submissions will be considered, but > all submissions must be fewer than 10 pages. > > Submissions and final papers should be formatted using the ACM SIGPLAN > 10 point format. Templates for Word and LaTeX are available at > http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigplan/authorInformation.htm; this site also > contains links to useful information on how to write effective > submissions. > > Accepted submissions will be made available through this website and > workshop participants are encouraged to have read the position papers > before attending the workshop. Participants are also asked to prepare > a presentation to support their position paper. > > ORGANIZERS (and members of the Committee) > > Craig Anslow - Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand > Shane Markstrum - Bucknell University, USA > Emerson Murphy-Hill - University of British Columbia, Canada > > PROGRAM COMMITTEE > > Andrew Black - Portland State University, USA > Larry Constantine - University of Madeira, Portugal > Jeff Foster - University of Maryland, College Park, USA > Robert Fuhrer - IBM Research, USA > Donna Malayeri - EPFL, Switzerland/Carnegie Mellon University, USA > Stuart Marshall - Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand > Todd Millstein - University of California, Los Angeles, USA > James Noble - Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand > Ewan Tempero - University of Auckland, New Zealand > > For more information, please see the workshop website: > > http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/Events/PLATEAU/WebHome > > ============================================================ > To contribute to SEWORLD, send your submission to > mailto:seworld@sigsoft.org > > http://www.sigsoft.org/seworld provides more > information on SEWORLD as well as a complete archive of > messages posted to the list. > ============================================================ > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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infusion release
by Tudor Girba 22 Jul '09

22 Jul '09

Hi, inFusion is a new incarnation of iPlasma and it is developed by the "intooitus" startup company that spawned from the LOOSE research group. Among others it includes and exporters for FAMIX 2.0 and for FAMIX 3.0. A free release is available at: http://www.intooitus.com/inFusion-tryit.html If you want to give it a try, it would be great to see how the FAMIX 3.0 exporter works for large Java systems. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge."

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FAMIXClass>>numberOfLinesOfCode
by Alexandre Bergel 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Is there a reason why this method does not exist anymore? Apparently, it did on some point. One cannot open a system complexity view on classes. I can fix this, but this is troubling. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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