23 Jul
2009
23 Jul
'09
2:34 p.m.
Hi all
I tried to load moose
I changed MooseLoader to have now
MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
necessary)
Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning phase when
I load Mondrian
Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
MooseLoader loadMondrian
23 Jul
23 Jul
2:46 p.m.
Hi stef,
I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
ScriptLoader new installer ss
project: 'Moose';
install: 'MooseLoader'.
(Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version wasn't
10388.
Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning phase
loading moose.
cheers,
Fabrizio
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi all
I tried to load moose
I changed MooseLoader to have now
MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
necessary)
Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning phase
when I load Mondrian
Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
MooseLoader loadMondrian
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2:52 p.m.
Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
Hi stef,
I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
ScriptLoader new installer ss
project: 'Moose';
install: 'MooseLoader'.
(Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version wasn't
10388.
Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning phase
loading moose.
cheers,
Fabrizio
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi all
I tried to load moose
I changed MooseLoader to have now
MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
necessary)
Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning phase
when I load Mondrian
Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
MooseLoader loadMondrian
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3:29 p.m.
Hi,
In a 10377 MooseLoader load loads perfectly. What happened in Pharo in
between these versions that could impact Mondrian? I suspect it has to
do with the window announcement fix of Alex.
I am testing it now in 10388.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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Hi stef,
I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
ScriptLoader new installer ss
project: 'Moose';
install: 'MooseLoader'.
(Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version
wasn't 10388.
Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning phase
loading moose.
cheers,
Fabrizio
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
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I tried to load moose
I changed MooseLoader to have now
MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
necessary)
Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning phase
when I load Mondrian
Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
MooseLoader loadMondrian
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3:52 p.m.
Ok, I tested and the problem is indeed generated by the fix of Alex. I
removed for the moment the loading of announcement, but of course now
Mondrian is broken because SystemWindow does not understand announcer.
Alex, could you take a look?
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 15:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
In a 10377 MooseLoader load loads perfectly. What happened in Pharo
in between these versions that could impact Mondrian? I suspect it
has to do with the window announcement fix of Alex.
I am testing it now in 10388.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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"The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."
Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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Hi stef,
I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
ScriptLoader new installer ss
project: 'Moose';
install: 'MooseLoader'.
(Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version
wasn't 10388.
Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning
phase loading moose.
cheers,
Fabrizio
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
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I tried to load moose
I changed MooseLoader to have now
MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
necessary)
Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning phase
when I load Mondrian
Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
MooseLoader loadMondrian
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4:09 p.m.
I tried different configurations, loading Moose in 10371 (which,
incidentally, load Mondrian*), updating 10371 to 10388 then loading
Mondrian, loading Mondrian in fresh 10388, and all seem to at least
load.
Mondrian in Pharo-Core would not work (at least for now) because it
also requires RBSmallDictionary. With Alex we should work on that and
perhaps remove this dependency if applicable.
* this is my fault, because I declared Mondrian a required package of
Moose-mondrian-scripts, which itself is required by moose-all, which
is now NOT a good idea (even if it was before). However, this is a
subject for another mail.
On 23 juil. 09, at 15:52, Tudor Girba wrote:
Ok, I tested and the problem is indeed generated by
the fix of Alex.
I removed for the moment the loading of announcement, but of course
now Mondrian is broken because SystemWindow does not understand
announcer. Alex, could you take a look?
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 15:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
--
Simon
Hi,
In a 10377 MooseLoader load loads perfectly. What happened in Pharo
in between these versions that could impact Mondrian? I suspect it
has to do with the window announcement fix of Alex.
I am testing it now in 10388.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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Hi stef,
I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
ScriptLoader new installer ss
project: 'Moose';
install: 'MooseLoader'.
(Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version
wasn't 10388.
Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning
phase loading moose.
cheers,
Fabrizio
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I tried to load moose
> I changed MooseLoader to have now
>
> MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
> necessary)
>
> Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning
> phase when I load Mondrian
>
> Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
>
> MooseLoader loadMondrian
> _______________________________________________
> Moose-dev mailing list
> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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4:49 p.m.
Hi,
It now works because I removed the offending code from the loader.
It's just that Mondrian is broken now.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 16:09, Simon Denier wrote:
I tried different configurations, loading Moose in
10371 (which,
incidentally, load Mondrian*), updating 10371 to 10388 then loading
Mondrian, loading Mondrian in fresh 10388, and all seem to at least
load.
Mondrian in Pharo-Core would not work (at least for now) because it
also requires RBSmallDictionary. With Alex we should work on that
and perhaps remove this dependency if applicable.
* this is my fault, because I declared Mondrian a required package
of Moose-mondrian-scripts, which itself is required by moose-all,
which is now NOT a good idea (even if it was before). However, this
is a subject for another mail.
On 23 juil. 09, at 15:52, Tudor Girba wrote:
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"Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
Ok, I tested and the problem is indeed generated
by the fix of
Alex. I removed for the moment the loading of announcement, but of
course now Mondrian is broken because SystemWindow does not
understand announcer. Alex, could you take a look?
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 15:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
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Hi,
In a 10377 MooseLoader load loads perfectly. What happened in
Pharo in between these versions that could impact Mondrian? I
suspect it has to do with the window announcement fix of Alex.
I am testing it now in 10388.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
> Hi stef,
> I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
>
> ScriptLoader new installer ss
> project: 'Moose';
> install: 'MooseLoader'.
> (Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
>
>
> the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version
> wasn't 10388.
>
> Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning
> phase loading moose.
>
> cheers,
>
> Fabrizio
>
> On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I tried to load moose
>> I changed MooseLoader to have now
>>
>> MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
>> necessary)
>>
>> Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning
>> phase when I load Mondrian
>>
>> Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
>>
>> MooseLoader loadMondrian
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
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5:20 p.m.
I am currently working on it. But it would be nice to have my fix on
announcement included in Pharo-core.
Alexandre
On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:52, Tudor Girba wrote:
Ok, I tested and the problem is indeed generated by
the fix of Alex.
I removed for the moment the loading of announcement, but of course
now Mondrian is broken because SystemWindow does not understand
announcer. Alex, could you take a look?
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 15:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
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Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Hi,
In a 10377 MooseLoader load loads perfectly. What happened in Pharo
in between these versions that could impact Mondrian? I suspect it
has to do with the window announcement fix of Alex.
I am testing it now in 10388.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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"The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."
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Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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Hi stef,
I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
ScriptLoader new installer ss
project: 'Moose';
install: 'MooseLoader'.
(Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version
wasn't 10388.
Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning
phase loading moose.
cheers,
Fabrizio
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I tried to load moose
> I changed MooseLoader to have now
>
> MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
> necessary)
>
> Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning
> phase when I load Mondrian
>
> Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
>
> MooseLoader loadMondrian
> _______________________________________________
> Moose-dev mailing list
> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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6:06 p.m.
the problem is that this is not a fix this is adding event to
windowing and
people should agree on that and we should know how much it costs.
stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I am currently working on it. But it would be nice to
have my fix on
announcement included in Pharo-core.
Alexandre
On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:52, Tudor Girba wrote:
Ok, I tested and the problem is indeed generated
by the fix of
Alex. I removed for the moment the loading of announcement, but of
course now Mondrian is broken because SystemWindow does not
understand announcer. Alex, could you take a look?
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 15:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
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_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
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In a 10377 MooseLoader load loads perfectly. What happened in
Pharo in between these versions that could impact Mondrian? I
suspect it has to do with the window announcement fix of Alex.
I am testing it now in 10388.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
> Hi stef,
> I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
>
> ScriptLoader new installer ss
> project: 'Moose';
> install: 'MooseLoader'.
> (Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
>
>
> the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version
> wasn't 10388.
>
> Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning
> phase loading moose.
>
> cheers,
>
> Fabrizio
>
> On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I tried to load moose
>> I changed MooseLoader to have now
>>
>> MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
>> necessary)
>>
>> Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning
>> phase when I load Mondrian
>>
>> Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
>>
>> MooseLoader loadMondrian
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
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6:05 p.m.
Ok I prefer that than having to check if I did not break mc
Stef
Ok, I tested and the problem is indeed generated by
the fix of Alex.
I removed for the moment the loading of announcement, but of course
now Mondrian is broken because SystemWindow does not understand
announcer. Alex, could you take a look?
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 15:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
In a 10377 MooseLoader load loads perfectly. What happened in Pharo
in between these versions that could impact Mondrian? I suspect it
has to do with the window announcement fix of Alex.
I am testing it now in 10388.
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev Thanks fabrizio
Now MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose is running
and I identified that this is mondrian that kills my image :)
Stef
On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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Hi stef,
I had the same problem on monday. Loading moose with this script:
ScriptLoader new installer ss
project: 'Moose';
install: 'MooseLoader'.
(Smalltalk at: #MooseLoader) load
the pharo image blocks during the cleaning phase. The version
wasn't 10388.
Anyway, also my image on version 10388 blocks during cleaning
phase loading moose.
cheers,
Fabrizio
On 23 Jul 2009, at 14:34, stephane ducasse wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I tried to load moose
> I changed MooseLoader to have now
>
> MooseLoader loadMinimalMoose (which loads automatically OB if
> necessary)
>
> Now my pharo image blocks automatically during the cleaning
> phase when I load Mondrian
>
> Can one of you try to reproduce the problem
>
> MooseLoader loadMondrian
> _______________________________________________
> Moose-dev mailing list
> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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