---- On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:33:36 -0800 Stéphane Ducasse wrote ----
Hi
may be you should let us pharo dev guys know what is the best?
May be loading a more recent version is more adequate.
Stef
Perhaps you could postpone the integration until Pharo 1.3? Honestly, I am
not really sure if it should be in the core at all,
But stef was asking about dev image ehh, not core
And there is no "integration" with PharoDev. The developers just need to
make it work, like Moose does, like Seaside does, or like any other package.
Of course, if some changes are required in the core, it can be discussed and
done-
mariano
as it adds another megabyte to the image and nothing
in the image depends
on it. The real reason why you're considering including it is that people
keep going onto the Pharo lists asking if a Pharo XML parser exists and
where it can be found, because they don't already know of XMLSupport's
existence. Rather than stuffing every popular package into the core image,
the long term solution should be to find a way to enable people to search
for Pharo packages. Maybe the Squeak Source rewrite being planned will be
more Google friendly, and you'll be able to put a search box on the
pharo-project.org homepage with a prompt to "Search for Pharo projects"
and people will be able to find whatever they need :)
As for the differences between older and newer
packages, there are many,
some of which aren't backwards compatible. For example, the writer API was
redone to be block-based like Seaside's HTML generation API. The
#contentString methods return the combined string content of all descendant
elements rather than only of the first child string node. You can check the
changelog at
squeaksource.com/XMLSupport for more information. I have
unfortunately been busy lately and unable to work on Pharo-related projects.
On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:59 PM, jaayer wrote:
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> Subject : Re: [Moose-dev] xmlsupport conflict in pharo 1.2
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> ---- On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:39:31 -0800 Alexandre Bergel wrote ----
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>> I had a quick look at it.
>> In Pharo 1.2, the XML-Parser parkage is clean (i.e.,not dirty). Loading
XMLSupport turns the package dirty. The user is asked whether he is ready to
lose his changes. I cannot determine why the packages turned dirty.
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>> Executing:
>> Gofer new
>> squeaksource: 'XMLSupport';
>> package: 'ConfigurationOfXMLSupport';
>> load.
>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfXMLSupport) perform: #loadDefault.
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>> in a fresh image raises the popup. Without canceling or accepting, open
a
Monticello browser, you will see the package dirty.
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>> Jaaryer, can you have a look at it? There is something weird with the
configuration. I sincerely hope we will have a better tool for managing
configuration. I am currently working on it, but it is still too early for
releasing it.
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>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
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> Is the package in Pharo 1.2 the most recent version? Reading the
discussion
from last month, it appeared they were opting for an older
version. The only Pharo 1.2 image I can find on the website is a barren core
without XMLSupport in it.
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> Regardless, if you load any of the recent XMLSupport packages and run
the test
suite, it will dirty the XML-Tests-Parser package. To understand
why, just browse the XMLParserElementFactoryTest class or read its comment;
it generates a number of "dummy" subclasses of XMLElement for testing
purposes in its #setUp message and removes those classes from the system in
its #tearDown message. I have known about this for weeks but did not
consider it to be a problem as other packages ("Tests", for example) always
seem to have an asterisk beside them in the Monticello browser and nothing
seems break as a result. I can easily change this to make those classes
static (always present) rather than dynamically generated/removed, if this
is a problem.
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>> On 5 Jan 2011, at 11:41, Tudor Girba wrote:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> XMLSupport is present in the latest Pharo 1.2. Loading a new version
generates an exception apparently, so I removed for the moment XMLSupport
from the default ConfigurationOfMoose.
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>>> I think we should only load this conditionally. Or do you have another
solution?
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> Doru
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