Hi,
zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress?
Cheers! Uko
You need to send #signalUpdate to the view after having changed the camera
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Hi,
zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress?
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Yes, the thing is that I do:
view canvas camera translateBy: 1000@1000. view signalUpdate.
and nothing happens. Do you have any more suggestions of what I can check?
Uko
P.S. Of course #translateBy works because it’s used during dragging. Can the issue be related to use GTInspector? Is something not initialised before view is being displayed for a first time?
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 16:47, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
You need to send #signalUpdate to the view after having changed the camera
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Hi,
zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress?
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It works well I think. Try this:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | v | v := RTView new. v canvas addMenu: 'Left' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: -5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Right' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Up' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ -5. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Down' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ 5. v signalUpdate ].
v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements. v -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
However, when you open a view, the camera is centered at the center of all the elements (ie. focusOnCenter). So far, this has worked pretty well, however this can be changed.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, the thing is that I do:
view canvas camera translateBy: 1000@1000. view signalUpdate.
and nothing happens. Do you have any more suggestions of what I can check?
Uko
P.S. Of course #translateBy works because it’s used during dragging. Can the issue be related to use GTInspector? Is something not initialised before view is being displayed for a first time?
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 16:47, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
You need to send #signalUpdate to the view after having changed the camera
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Hi,
zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress?
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Thanks, now I have more insight.
Now there is one concern:
| v | v := RTView new. v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements.
v canvas camera focusOnCenterScaled: 500.
v
That stuff is not centred :)
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 19:00, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
It works well I think. Try this:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | v | v := RTView new. v canvas addMenu: 'Left' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: -5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Right' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Up' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ -5. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Down' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ 5. v signalUpdate ].
v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements. v -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
However, when you open a view, the camera is centered at the center of all the elements (ie. focusOnCenter). So far, this has worked pretty well, however this can be changed.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, the thing is that I do:
view canvas camera translateBy: 1000@1000. view signalUpdate.
and nothing happens. Do you have any more suggestions of what I can check?
Uko
P.S. Of course #translateBy works because it’s used during dragging. Can the issue be related to use GTInspector? Is something not initialised before view is being displayed for a first time?
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 16:47, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
You need to send #signalUpdate to the view after having changed the camera
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Hi,
zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress?
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Indeed, zooming and scaling are things that should be significantly improved.
Milton worked on the #focusOnCenterScaled: method
Right now, we have no solution. Help is appreciated
Alexandre
On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Thanks, now I have more insight.
Now there is one concern:
| v | v := RTView new. v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements.
v canvas camera focusOnCenterScaled: 500.
v
That stuff is not centred :)
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 19:00, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
It works well I think. Try this:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | v | v := RTView new. v canvas addMenu: 'Left' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: -5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Right' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Up' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ -5. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Down' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ 5. v signalUpdate ].
v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements. v -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
However, when you open a view, the camera is centered at the center of all the elements (ie. focusOnCenter). So far, this has worked pretty well, however this can be changed.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, the thing is that I do:
view canvas camera translateBy: 1000@1000. view signalUpdate.
and nothing happens. Do you have any more suggestions of what I can check?
Uko
P.S. Of course #translateBy works because it’s used during dragging. Can the issue be related to use GTInspector? Is something not initialised before view is being displayed for a first time?
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 16:47, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
You need to send #signalUpdate to the view after having changed the camera
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Hi,
zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress?
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Ok, then can someone explain me the current philosophy behind camera, canvas and so on?
Uko
On 05 Jun 2014, at 15:42, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Indeed, zooming and scaling are things that should be significantly improved.
Milton worked on the #focusOnCenterScaled: method
Right now, we have no solution. Help is appreciated
Alexandre
On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Thanks, now I have more insight.
Now there is one concern:
| v | v := RTView new. v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements.
v canvas camera focusOnCenterScaled: 500.
v
That stuff is not centred :)
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 19:00, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
It works well I think. Try this:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | v | v := RTView new. v canvas addMenu: 'Left' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: -5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Right' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Up' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ -5. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Down' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ 5. v signalUpdate ].
v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements. v -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
However, when you open a view, the camera is centered at the center of all the elements (ie. focusOnCenter). So far, this has worked pretty well, however this can be changed.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, the thing is that I do:
view canvas camera translateBy: 1000@1000. view signalUpdate.
and nothing happens. Do you have any more suggestions of what I can check?
Uko
P.S. Of course #translateBy works because it’s used during dragging. Can the issue be related to use GTInspector? Is something not initialised before view is being displayed for a first time?
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 16:47, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
You need to send #signalUpdate to the view after having changed the camera
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Hi,
zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress?
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The idea is that you see in the window what the camera is pointing at. Translating the camera means you are scrolling the view.
Canvas is an instance of TRCanvas, something low level. Maybe we should access directly the camera from the view.
If you plan to improve the camera and zooming, you should not touch at Roassal, but at Trachel. Trachel is simply an object layer on top of Athens. Roassal produces Trachel objects.
I hope this make the thing clearer.
Alexandre
On Jun 5, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Ok, then can someone explain me the current philosophy behind camera, canvas and so on?
Uko
On 05 Jun 2014, at 15:42, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Indeed, zooming and scaling are things that should be significantly improved.
Milton worked on the #focusOnCenterScaled: method
Right now, we have no solution. Help is appreciated
Alexandre
On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Thanks, now I have more insight.
Now there is one concern:
| v | v := RTView new. v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements.
v canvas camera focusOnCenterScaled: 500.
v
That stuff is not centred :)
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 19:00, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
It works well I think. Try this:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | v | v := RTView new. v canvas addMenu: 'Left' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: -5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Right' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 5 @ 0. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Up' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ -5. v signalUpdate ]. v canvas addMenu: 'Down' callback: [ v canvas camera translateBy: 0 @ 5. v signalUpdate ].
v addAll: ((RTEllipse new size: 20) elementsOn: (1 to: 100)). RTGridLayout on: v elements. v -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
However, when you open a view, the camera is centered at the center of all the elements (ie. focusOnCenter). So far, this has worked pretty well, however this can be changed.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, the thing is that I do:
view canvas camera translateBy: 1000@1000. view signalUpdate.
and nothing happens. Do you have any more suggestions of what I can check?
Uko
P.S. Of course #translateBy works because it’s used during dragging. Can the issue be related to use GTInspector? Is something not initialised before view is being displayed for a first time?
Uko
On 04 Jun 2014, at 16:47, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
You need to send #signalUpdate to the view after having changed the camera
Cheers, Alexandre
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
> Hi, > > zooming in Roassal was always a sensitive topic for me, and now it seems to get better API in Roassal2. There are still some things that I don’t understand. Eg. when I send #translateTo:, #translateBy: and related things like #focusOnCenter to TRCamera, nothing happens (at least in GTInspector view). Is there a specific way to use it? Or it’s still work in progress? > > Cheers! > Uko > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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