26 Jan
2015
26 Jan
'15
2:02 p.m.
Hi all,
just to notify that in today’s Pharo 40461 doing a ConfigurationOfPetitParser
loadDevelopment leads to a broken image: red morphs of death appear in already open
windows and opening the spotter gives a DNU GLMBrick>>widthBlock It would be cool if
some knowledgeable person had a look at this, thanks :-)
Greetings.
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26 Jan
26 Jan
2:36 p.m.
The situation is like this:
PetitParser depends on Glamour
Glamour depends on GlamourCore
GlamourCore contains Brick which is still very much changing these days
At the same time, GlamourCore already exists in the Pharo image (because of
GT)
The problem is that if you load PetitParser, the newer packages of
GlamourCore do not get loaded for some reason and this leads to the
mentioned issues. I do not know how to solve this actually, and I could use
some help.
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
Hi all,
just to notify that in today’s Pharo 40461 doing a
ConfigurationOfPetitParser loadDevelopment leads to a broken image: red
morphs of death appear in already open windows and opening the spotter
gives a DNU GLMBrick>>widthBlock It would be cool if some knowledgeable
person had a look at this, thanks :-)
Greetings.
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3:12 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
The situation is like this:
PetitParser depends on Glamour
Glamour depends on GlamourCore
GlamourCore contains Brick which is still very much changing these days
At the same time, GlamourCore already exists in the Pharo image (because
of GT)
The problem is that if you load PetitParser, the newer packages of
GlamourCore do not get loaded for some reason and this leads to the
mentioned issues. I do not know how to solve this actually, and I could use
some help.
I would like to share a recent exp. regarding debugging several
configurations in Moose and the tool support available to debug these
configurations.
I debugged quite a few configurations to obtain a customized, working
configuration of Moose 5.0 for our tools. I heavily used and appreciated a
lot, the project map tab in GTInspector to see project dependencies, and
record command in Metacello + EyeInspector to see the actual packages being
loaded.
GTInspector on MetacelloMCVersion object shows the projects and packages
that are loaded by a ConfigOf baseline or version. This can be obtained by
inspecting: ConfigOf project version: XXX. This is quite helpful given the
absence of any tool support to debug configurations (except actually
loading and looking at the transcript :).
However, the above tool only helps determining what configOf loads in
theory. However, in practice, there is complex machinery working behind the
scene i.e. sometimes, a project is already loaded and the configuration
might be trying to load an earlier version. In that case, I found record
directive quite handy. This I obtained as: EyeInspector inspect:
(configOfYYY project version: XXX) record loadDirective. It provides a list
of actual project and package versions loaded by the configOf given the
current state of the image. With the indented output of the loaded
versions, one can see what gets loaded and the path to get there. It might
be beneficial to obtain a project map for this too.
usman
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
Hi all,
just to notify that in today’s Pharo 40461 doing a
ConfigurationOfPetitParser loadDevelopment leads to a broken image: red
morphs of death appear in already open windows and opening the spotter
gives a DNU GLMBrick>>widthBlock It would be cool if some knowledgeable
person had a look at this, thanks :-)
Greetings.
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4:23 p.m.
I have no fundamenta solution, but would it be possible to create a version of the
configuration that loads development of everything except the UI tools? That would create
a version that would be a bit more stable in the face of GlamourCore / Brick changes.
On Jan 26, 2015, at 14:36, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
The situation is like this:
PetitParser depends on Glamour
Glamour depends on GlamourCore
GlamourCore contains Brick which is still very much changing these days
At the same time, GlamourCore already exists in the Pharo image (because of GT)
The problem is that if you load PetitParser, the newer packages of GlamourCore do not get
loaded for some reason and this leads to the mentioned issues. I do not know how to solve
this actually, and I could use some help.
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl
<mailto:jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl>> wrote:
Hi all,
just to notify that in today’s Pharo 40461 doing a ConfigurationOfPetitParser
loadDevelopment leads to a broken image: red morphs of death appear in already open
windows and opening the spotter gives a DNU GLMBrick>>widthBlock It would be cool if
some knowledgeable person had a look at this, thanks :-)
Greetings.
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5:45 p.m.
Sadly, the situation is not so nice for 3.0 either. PetitParser development version in
Pharo 3.0 also breaks. What version should I load for 3.0?
ConfigurationOfPetitParser loadDevelopment gives a window with:
This package depends on the following classes:
Pharo3DarkTheme
AbstractInstanceVariableSlot
You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions:
GLMPhlowSlot
write:to:
brickThemer
Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation.
On Jan 26, 2015, at 16:23, Johan Fabry
<jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
I have no fundamenta solution, but would it be possible to create a version of the
configuration that loads development of everything except the UI tools? That would create
a version that would be a bit more stable in the face of GlamourCore / Brick changes.
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PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
On Jan 26, 2015, at 14:36, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote:
The situation is like this:
PetitParser depends on Glamour
Glamour depends on GlamourCore
GlamourCore contains Brick which is still very much changing these days
At the same time, GlamourCore already exists in the Pharo image (because of GT)
The problem is that if you load PetitParser, the newer packages of GlamourCore do not get
loaded for some reason and this leads to the mentioned issues. I do not know how to solve
this actually, and I could use some help.
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl
<mailto:jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl>> wrote:
Hi all,
just to notify that in today’s Pharo 40461 doing a ConfigurationOfPetitParser
loadDevelopment leads to a broken image: red morphs of death appear in already open
windows and opening the spotter gives a DNU GLMBrick>>widthBlock It would be cool if
some knowledgeable person had a look at this, thanks :-)
Greetings.
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10:32 p.m.
Hi Johan,
For Pharo 3.0, please load the stable version. We should point in the
#development to the concrete stable version for Pharo 3.0.
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
Sadly, the situation is not so nice for 3.0 either.
PetitParser
development version in Pharo 3.0 also breaks. What version should I load
for 3.0?
ConfigurationOfPetitParser loadDevelopment gives a window with:
This package depends on the following classes:
Pharo3DarkTheme
AbstractInstanceVariableSlot
You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these
definitions:
GLMPhlowSlot
write:to:
brickThemer
Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation.
On Jan 26, 2015, at 16:23, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
I have no fundamenta solution, but would it be possible to create a
version of the configuration that loads development of everything except
the UI tools? That would create a version that would be a bit more stable
in the face of GlamourCore / Brick changes.
On Jan 26, 2015, at 14:36, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
The situation is like this:
PetitParser depends on Glamour
Glamour depends on GlamourCore
GlamourCore contains Brick which is still very much changing these days
At the same time, GlamourCore already exists in the Pharo image (because
of GT)
The problem is that if you load PetitParser, the newer packages of
GlamourCore do not get loaded for some reason and this leads to the
mentioned issues. I do not know how to solve this actually, and I could use
some help.
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
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Hi all,
just to notify that in today’s Pharo 40461 doing a
ConfigurationOfPetitParser loadDevelopment leads to a broken image: red
morphs of death appear in already open windows and opening the spotter
gives a DNU GLMBrick>>widthBlock It would be cool if some knowledgeable
person had a look at this, thanks :-)
Greetings.
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PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
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