29 Jul
2016
29 Jul
'16
2:38 p.m.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Thierry Goubier
<thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sven,
I'd put RB + SmaCC among the lot. But I consider that really non-trivial :
the pattern language of RB (and the underlying pattern matching and
unification algorithm) is top notch, and how SmaCC builds on RB to virtually
generate code / optimise code / then compile is nothing short of amazing.
SmaCC comes with a pattern matching/unification algorithm over ASTs +
auto-generation of AST code + visitor + tree equality + the equivalent of
Flex/Bison(*) + a GUI in 11401 lines of code.
SmaCC deserves definitively more advertisements and should be added to
MOOSE platform I think.
When I see all the buzz around languages workbenches like Rascal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffx7VtEOSx4
with MOOSE+RB+SmaCC+Reflectivity+GTools we are close to these tools
(or even better).
Regards,
--
Serge Stinckwich
UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
29 Jul
29 Jul
3 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-dev] Ask HN: Examples of elegant, non-trivial Smalltalk? | Hacker News
Hi Serge,
2016-07-29 14:38 GMT+02:00 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Thierry Goubier
<thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote:
SmaCC requires a bit of effort. It's not trendy in research like
PetitParser is, so spending research student time on it (if I had any :()
is costly. But for providing tools for business partners, it is very
valuable: the parsers are fast and reliable.
Thierry
Hi Sven,
I'd put RB + SmaCC among the lot. But I consider that really non-trivial
:
the pattern language of RB (and the underlying
pattern matching and
unification algorithm) is top notch, and how SmaCC builds on RB to
virtually
generate code / optimise code / then compile is
nothing short of amazing.
SmaCC comes with a pattern matching/unification algorithm over ASTs +
auto-generation of AST code + visitor + tree equality + the equivalent of
Flex/Bison(*) + a GUI in 11401 lines of code.
SmaCC deserves definitively more advertisements and should be added to
MOOSE platform I think.
When I see all the buzz around languages workbenches like Rascal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffx7VtEOSx4
with MOOSE+RB+SmaCC+Reflectivity+GTools we are close to these tools
(or even better).
Regards,
--
Serge Stinckwich
UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
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I was at that talk, and I am not convinced that we are at that level, we are certainly not
better in my opinion. The advantage that they have is the domain-specific language on top
of the parsing infrastructure which makes it easy and fast to write (at least) the demos
he is showing. We don’t have that and his talk showed me that it is an important thing
that is missing.
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On Jul 29, 2016, at 08:38, Serge Stinckwich
<serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
When I see all the buzz around languages workbenches like Rascal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffx7VtEOSx4
with MOOSE+RB+SmaCC+Reflectivity+GTools we are close to these tools
(or even better).
9:15 p.m.
New subject: [Pharo-dev] Ask HN: Examples of elegant, non-trivial Smalltalk? | Hacker News
Le 29/7/16 à 14:38, Serge Stinckwich a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Thierry Goubier
<thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I asked John and he told me that we could use the material
of his
tutorial to produce
docs and chapter. There is a chapter in the PharoInProgress waiting for
reviews.
I would like to add an example on how to parse tab based language.
Hi Sven,
I'd put RB + SmaCC among the lot. But I consider that really non-trivial :
the pattern language of RB (and the underlying pattern matching and
unification algorithm) is top notch, and how SmaCC builds on RB to virtually
generate code / optimise code / then compile is nothing short of amazing.
SmaCC comes with a pattern matching/unification algorithm over ASTs +
auto-generation of AST code + visitor + tree equality + the equivalent of
Flex/Bison(*) + a GUI in 11401 lines of code.
SmaCC deserves definitively more
advertisements and should be added to
MOOSE platform I think.
When I see all the buzz around languages workbenches like Rascal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffx7VtEOSx4
This is not the same Rascal has a pattern-matching and relationship
queries.
with MOOSE+RB+SmaCC+Reflectivity+GTools we are close
to these tools
(or even better).
Regards,
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