In case you don't know yet:
"*D3.js** is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."*
Here nice examples:
Of course we know it :)
Doru
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin fabrizio.perin@gmail.com wrote:
In case you don't know yet:
"*D3.js** is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."*
Here nice examples:
https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
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D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction.
Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
Cheers, Alexandre
On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin fabrizio.perin@gmail.com wrote:
In case you don't know yet:
"D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
Here nice examples:
https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction.
Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
Cheers, Alexandre
On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin fabrizio.perin@gmail.com
wrote:
In case you don't know yet:
"D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data.
D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
Here nice examples:
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Hi,
Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
Cheers,
Offray
El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor. Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction. Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html Cheers, Alexandre > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin@gmail.com <mailto:fabrizio.perin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > In case you don't know yet: > > http://d3js.org/ > > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation." > > Here nice examples: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list >Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> >https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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I think that it's completely possible. The question is: what do we want to achieve. Because there is a lib called dc which is essentially DSL for interactive graphs built with d3.
Uko
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On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net wrote:
Hi,
Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
Cheers,
Offray
El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió: Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor. Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction. Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html Cheers, Alexandre > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin@gmail.com <mailto:fabrizio.perin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > In case you don't know yet: > > http://d3js.org/ > > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation." > > Here nice examples: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list >Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> >https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Well I'm thinking in exporting some interactive visualizations made on Roassal to the web. Just wondering which is the path for that. For the moment I'm pretty happy with Roassal on desktop and its graphics exported as SVG and raster png, just thinking what is needed to export for and interactive web.
Cheers,
Offray
El 28/11/14 a las #4, Yuriy Tymchuk escribió:
I think that it's completely possible. The question is: what do we want to achieve. Because there is a lib called dc which is essentially DSL for interactive graphs built with d3.
Uko
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On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net wrote:
Hi,
Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
Cheers,
Offray
El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió: Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor. Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction. Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html Cheers, Alexandre > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin@gmail.com <mailto:fabrizio.perin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > In case you don't know yet: > > http://d3js.org/ > > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation." > > Here nice examples: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list >Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> >https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Yes, we are actively working on this
Alexandre
Le 29-11-2014 à 15:42, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net a écrit :
Well I'm thinking in exporting some interactive visualizations made on Roassal to the web. Just wondering which is the path for that. For the moment I'm pretty happy with Roassal on desktop and its graphics exported as SVG and raster png, just thinking what is needed to export for and interactive web.
Cheers,
Offray
El 28/11/14 a las #4, Yuriy Tymchuk escribió: I think that it's completely possible. The question is: what do we want to achieve. Because there is a lib called dc which is essentially DSL for interactive graphs built with d3.
Uko
Sent from my iPhone
On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net wrote:
Hi,
Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
Cheers,
Offray
El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió: Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor. Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction. Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html Cheers, Alexandre > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin@gmail.com <mailto:fabrizio.perin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > In case you don't know yet: > > http://d3js.org/ > > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation." > > Here nice examples: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list >Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> >https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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We should not be pessimistic. D3 is very powerful and people are doing amazing things with it. However, I believe we can do much better. It just takes a bit of time. But we will get there on some point.
Alexandre
On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net wrote:
Hi,
Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
Cheers,
Offray
El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor. Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction. Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html Cheers, Alexandre > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin@gmail.com <mailto:fabrizio.perin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > In case you don't know yet: > > http://d3js.org/ > > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation." > > Here nice examples: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list >Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> >https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Rossal is the best promotion for Pharo 3.0. The better Roassal the more popular Pharo will be .... i am sure.
But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.
BW, Volkert
Am 28.11.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
We should not be pessimistic. D3 is very powerful and people are doing amazing things with it. However, I believe we can do much better. It just takes a bit of time. But we will get there on some point.
Alexandre
On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net wrote:
Hi,
Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
Cheers,
Offray
El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor. Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction. Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html Cheers, Alexandre > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin@gmail.com <mailto:fabrizio.perin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > In case you don't know yet: > > http://d3js.org/ > > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation." > > Here nice examples: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list >Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> >https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.
I do not think it is hard to beat actually: - D3 is slow to load on mobile devices using 3G. - D3 visualization are (very) hard to debug. - Adapting one of the template is not trivial at all.
This is where Roassal has a role to play
Alexandre
Yeah, they are very hard to debug.
And to get D3 to play well with a lot of other js things is no walk in the park either.
Phil
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.
I do not think it is hard to beat actually:
- D3 is slow to load on mobile devices using 3G.
- D3 visualization are (very) hard to debug.
- Adapting one of the template is not trivial at all.
This is where Roassal has a role to play
Alexandre
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Am 28.11.2014 um 22:44 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.
I do not think it is hard to beat actually:
- D3 is slow to load on mobile devices using 3G.
- D3 visualization are (very) hard to debug.
- Adapting one of the template is not trivial at all.
This is where Roassal has a role to play
We will see. ;-)
We will see with spur, sista and be clever with algorithms
Le 28/11/14 22:31, volkert@nivoba.de a écrit :
Rossal is the best promotion for Pharo 3.0. The better Roassal the more popular Pharo will be .... i am sure.
But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.
BW, Volkert
Am 28.11.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
We should not be pessimistic. D3 is very powerful and people are doing amazing things with it. However, I believe we can do much better. It just takes a bit of time. But we will get there on some point.
Alexandre
On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net wrote:
Hi,
Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
Cheers,
Offray
El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
Hello, thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.
Cheers, Fabri
2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We arewell aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a newone, with better support for interaction.
Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you willbe faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported. Some examples: http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
Cheers, Alexandre > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin<fabrizio.perin@gmail.com mailto:fabrizio.perin@gmail.com> wrote: > > In case you don't know yet: > > http://d3js.org/ > > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation." > > Here nice examples: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list >Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch mailto:Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch >https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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