Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
Nice!
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
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Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
That was a surprise it was so simple! Very intuitive. Very cool....
Cool, isn't it :)
As I mentioned when we introduced the GLMPager, this is a conceptual improvement over the Miller's columns. But, now that we are at it, did you try mousing over a bullet that represents a pane that is not visible (you need the latest version for this) :).
The implementation credits go to the Alex (Aliaksei Syrel) and Andrei.
Doru
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
That was a surprise it was so simple! Very intuitive. Very cool....
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Hi,
Thank you all for very positive comments :) New pager is very interesting idea, that was a big pleasure to implement. In short time with the help of Andrei and Tudor I will try to make another interesting GTInspector feature real! It's the idea of having a possibility to re-open pane tree while inspecting a list of similar objects. So if you made a long way deep inside the object (lots of panes) and start inspecting another object of the same class as before, inspector will try to redo your previous job of digging deep inside, wich can heavily save someone's time. And after having such mechanism it could theoretically be possible to generate Smalltalk code, based on that way. So maybe someday we can program directly in inspector switching panes?...
Cheers, Alex On Jun 7, 2014 6:57 PM, "Tudor Girba" tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Cool, isn't it :)
As I mentioned when we introduced the GLMPager, this is a conceptual improvement over the Miller's columns. But, now that we are at it, did you try mousing over a bullet that represents a pane that is not visible (you need the latest version for this) :).
The implementation credits go to the Alex (Aliaksei Syrel) and Andrei.
Doru
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
That was a surprise it was so simple! Very intuitive. Very cool....
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[CH] Aliaksei Syrel wrote:
Hi,
Thank you all for very positive comments :) New pager is very interesting idea, that was a big pleasure to implement. In short time with the help of Andrei and Tudor I will try to make another interesting GTInspector feature real! It's the idea of having a possibility to re-open pane tree while inspecting a list of similar objects. So if you made a long way deep inside the object (lots of panes) and start inspecting another object of the same class as before, inspector will try to redo your previous job of digging deep inside, wich can heavily save someone's time. And after having such mechanism it could theoretically be possible to generate Smalltalk code, based on that way. So maybe someday we can program directly in inspector switching panes?...
Cheers, Alex
That just sparks an idea! Now I've only given it 10 seconds thought so take this with a grain of salt.. It might be cool to be able to look at two similar objects in parallel - so you end up with a grid that you can pan up and down as well as left to right.
Or, maybe just a pulldown list to which you can add multiple objects and select between them - with a shortcut to quickly flip back and forth between the last two selections.
cheers -ben
Hi,
Indeed, a good end goal would be to have the inspector and the debugger capturing some 60-70% of programming. A class browser is good for organizing code, but less good for live programming.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:00 AM, [CH] Aliaksei Syrel alex@syrel.ch wrote:
Hi,
Thank you all for very positive comments :) New pager is very interesting idea, that was a big pleasure to implement. In short time with the help of Andrei and Tudor I will try to make another interesting GTInspector feature real! It's the idea of having a possibility to re-open pane tree while inspecting a list of similar objects. So if you made a long way deep inside the object (lots of panes) and start inspecting another object of the same class as before, inspector will try to redo your previous job of digging deep inside, wich can heavily save someone's time. And after having such mechanism it could theoretically be possible to generate Smalltalk code, based on that way. So maybe someday we can program directly in inspector switching panes?...
Cheers, Alex On Jun 7, 2014 6:57 PM, "Tudor Girba" tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Cool, isn't it :)
As I mentioned when we introduced the GLMPager, this is a conceptual improvement over the Miller's columns. But, now that we are at it, did you try mousing over a bullet that represents a pane that is not visible (you need the latest version for this) :).
The implementation credits go to the Alex (Aliaksei Syrel) and Andrei.
Doru
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
That was a surprise it was so simple! Very intuitive. Very cool....
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Unless you make the class browser simple and compact enough to be part of the inspector or the debugger (i.e. really blurring the lines between the three).
I wonder what it would mean not having to go through the inspector... Or replacing the code pane in the debugger by the tree + code pane of AltBrowser.
Oh, I think I'd like that last one :)
Thierry
________________________________ De : moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch [moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch] de la part de Tudor Girba [tudor@tudorgirba.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 juin 2014 10:18 À : Moose-related development Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Cool feature of GTInspector
Hi,
Indeed, a good end goal would be to have the inspector and the debugger capturing some 60-70% of programming. A class browser is good for organizing code, but less good for live programming.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:00 AM, [CH] Aliaksei Syrel <alex@syrel.chmailto:alex@syrel.ch> wrote:
Hi,
Thank you all for very positive comments :) New pager is very interesting idea, that was a big pleasure to implement. In short time with the help of Andrei and Tudor I will try to make another interesting GTInspector feature real! It's the idea of having a possibility to re-open pane tree while inspecting a list of similar objects. So if you made a long way deep inside the object (lots of panes) and start inspecting another object of the same class as before, inspector will try to redo your previous job of digging deep inside, wich can heavily save someone's time. And after having such mechanism it could theoretically be possible to generate Smalltalk code, based on that way. So maybe someday we can program directly in inspector switching panes?...
Cheers, Alex
On Jun 7, 2014 6:57 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.commailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Cool, isn't it :)
As I mentioned when we introduced the GLMPager, this is a conceptual improvement over the Miller's columns. But, now that we are at it, did you try mousing over a bullet that represents a pane that is not visible (you need the latest version for this) :).
The implementation credits go to the Alex (Aliaksei Syrel) and Andrei.
Doru
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.commailto:btc@openinworld.com> wrote: Alexandre Bergel wrote: Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
That was a surprise it was so simple! Very intuitive. Very cool....
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Exactly this is where we are going. The current solution already offers a rudimentary browser just to be able to explore the possibilities, but we want a cooler and simpler to use class browser dedicated to an object.
Given that you already worked in this area, would you be interested in joining this effort?
Cheers, Doru
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, GOUBIER Thierry thierry.goubier@cea.fr wrote:
Unless you make the class browser simple and compact enough to be part of the inspector or the debugger (i.e. really blurring the lines between the three).
I wonder what it would mean not having to go through the inspector... Or replacing the code pane in the debugger by the tree + code pane of AltBrowser.
Oh, I think I'd like that last one :)
Thierry
*De :* moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch [moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch] de la part de Tudor Girba [tudor@tudorgirba.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 10 juin 2014 10:18 *À :* Moose-related development *Objet :* [Moose-dev] Re: Cool feature of GTInspector
Hi,
Indeed, a good end goal would be to have the inspector and the debugger capturing some 60-70% of programming. A class browser is good for organizing code, but less good for live programming.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:00 AM, [CH] Aliaksei Syrel alex@syrel.ch wrote:
Hi,
Thank you all for very positive comments :) New pager is very interesting idea, that was a big pleasure to implement. In short time with the help of Andrei and Tudor I will try to make another interesting GTInspector feature real! It's the idea of having a possibility to re-open pane tree while inspecting a list of similar objects. So if you made a long way deep inside the object (lots of panes) and start inspecting another object of the same class as before, inspector will try to redo your previous job of digging deep inside, wich can heavily save someone's time. And after having such mechanism it could theoretically be possible to generate Smalltalk code, based on that way. So maybe someday we can program directly in inspector switching panes?...
Cheers, Alex On Jun 7, 2014 6:57 PM, "Tudor Girba" tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Cool, isn't it :)
As I mentioned when we introduced the GLMPager, this is a conceptual improvement over the Miller's columns. But, now that we are at it, did you try mousing over a bullet that represents a pane that is not visible (you need the latest version for this) :).
The implementation credits go to the Alex (Aliaksei Syrel) and Andrei.
Doru
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
That was a surprise it was so simple! Very intuitive. Very cool....
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Joining? I'd like to, but at the moment I feel bad about promising some time to code something (and there is a lot I'd like to take part in). I'm busy with the SmaCC stuff (and some project work) and late in many efforts. I'll see what I can do.
Thierry
________________________________ De : moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch [moose-dev-bounces@iam.unibe.ch] de la part de Tudor Girba [tudor@tudorgirba.com] Envoyé : mercredi 11 juin 2014 16:16 À : Moose-related development Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Cool feature of GTInspector
Exactly this is where we are going. The current solution already offers a rudimentary browser just to be able to explore the possibilities, but we want a cooler and simpler to use class browser dedicated to an object.
Given that you already worked in this area, would you be interested in joining this effort?
Cheers, Doru
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, GOUBIER Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.frmailto:thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Unless you make the class browser simple and compact enough to be part of the inspector or the debugger (i.e. really blurring the lines between the three).
I wonder what it would mean not having to go through the inspector... Or replacing the code pane in the debugger by the tree + code pane of AltBrowser.
Oh, I think I'd like that last one :)
Thierry
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Hi,
Indeed, a good end goal would be to have the inspector and the debugger capturing some 60-70% of programming. A class browser is good for organizing code, but less good for live programming.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:00 AM, [CH] Aliaksei Syrel <alex@syrel.chmailto:alex@syrel.ch> wrote:
Hi,
Thank you all for very positive comments :) New pager is very interesting idea, that was a big pleasure to implement. In short time with the help of Andrei and Tudor I will try to make another interesting GTInspector feature real! It's the idea of having a possibility to re-open pane tree while inspecting a list of similar objects. So if you made a long way deep inside the object (lots of panes) and start inspecting another object of the same class as before, inspector will try to redo your previous job of digging deep inside, wich can heavily save someone's time. And after having such mechanism it could theoretically be possible to generate Smalltalk code, based on that way. So maybe someday we can program directly in inspector switching panes?...
Cheers, Alex
On Jun 7, 2014 6:57 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.commailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Cool, isn't it :)
As I mentioned when we introduced the GLMPager, this is a conceptual improvement over the Miller's columns. But, now that we are at it, did you try mousing over a bullet that represents a pane that is not visible (you need the latest version for this) :).
The implementation credits go to the Alex (Aliaksei Syrel) and Andrei.
Doru
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.commailto:btc@openinworld.com> wrote: Alexandre Bergel wrote: Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre
That was a surprise it was so simple! Very intuitive. Very cool....
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And one cool thing about it, is that I can restore the inspector to use only one pane :-) This is useful when using Roassal
Alexandre
On Jun 6, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made my day! https://vimeo.com/97507411
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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You mean, that you can enlarge the pane to fill the whole window?
That is interesting indeed, but it has to be extended. Having to spend more time in one context is a recurrent problem, and the solution that we have now works in a limited set of cases. For example, if you enlarge a list to full screen, you will see that as soon as you select something, a the next pane comes in. To make it work properly we should suspend the spawning of further panes when in full screen mode.
Cheers, Doru
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
And one cool thing about it, is that I can restore the inspector to use only one pane :-) This is useful when using Roassal
Alexandre
On Jun 6, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
Serge shown us today how to have three panes in a GTInspector. This made
my day!
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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