Hi!
I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash.
Any comment?
Alexandre
I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8?
Doru
On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash.
Any comment?
Alexandre
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Hi Alex,
can you collect a bit more data? like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available.
also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8?
Doru
On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash.
Any comment?
Alexandre
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There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup
This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib.
Alexandre
On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
can you collect a bit more data? like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available.
also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8?
Doru
On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash.
Any comment?
Alexandre
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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no data = no fix. Simple. We are not magician just software engineers.
Stef
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup
This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib.
Alexandre
On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
can you collect a bit more data? like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available.
also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8?
Doru
On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash.
Any comment?
Alexandre
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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yes... I need at least a reproducible case :) Like an image, a vm, and a list of actions to get the error.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:47 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse@free.fr wrote:
no data = no fix. Simple. We are not magician just software engineers.
Stef
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup
This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib.
Alexandre
On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
can you collect a bit more data? like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available.
also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8?
Doru
On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash.
Any comment?
Alexandre
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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I will produce a repeatable scenario. This bug is a critical one. Giving this lecture on Pharo and Moose next semester depends on it actually
Alexandre
Le 7 avr. 2013 à 11:34, Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm@gmail.com a écrit :
yes... I need at least a reproducible case :) Like an image, a vm, and a list of actions to get the error.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:47 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse@free.fr wrote:
no data = no fix. Simple. We are not magician just software engineers.
Stef
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup
This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib.
Alexandre
On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
can you collect a bit more data? like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available.
also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8?
Doru
On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Hi!
I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash.
Any comment?
Alexandre
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Please use Moose 4.8 instead of 4.7. The VM has significantly improved.
Cheers, Doru
On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
I will produce a repeatable scenario. This bug is a critical one. Giving this lecture on Pharo and Moose next semester depends on it actually
Alexandre
Le 7 avr. 2013 à 11:34, Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm@gmail.com a écrit :
yes... I need at least a reproducible case :) Like an image, a vm, and a list of actions to get the error.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:47 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse@free.fr wrote:
no data = no fix. Simple. We are not magician just software engineers.
Stef
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup
This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib.
Alexandre
On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
can you collect a bit more data? like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available.
also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too.
Cheers, Esteban
On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com wrote:
I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8?
Doru
On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
> Hi! > > I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. > Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. > > Any comment? > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Any comment?
on Ubuntu you can try the latest deb files I produced: https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/pharo
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