14 Jan
2014
14 Jan
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10:50 a.m.
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our
metalled built from moose entities?
Uko
14 Jan
14 Jan
12:51 p.m.
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably
something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
Uko
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In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which
type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use
with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes
and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram
(preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
Uko
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3:09 p.m.
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta
browser
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we
can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important
feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see
a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
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Which kind of models exactly are you referring
to?
Alexandre
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3:18 p.m.
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging
it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it
shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard
to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection
I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the
item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks
like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations,
so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important
feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see
a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
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okay.
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing
a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model.
Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need
only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the
relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all
collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the
non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
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Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it
looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev In general - FAME models. They have annotations,
so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important
feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see
a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
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Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
> Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our
metalled built from moose entities?
>
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a screenshot
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okay.
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?
Alexandre
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Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about
pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my
model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I
need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for
the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see
all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the
non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
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Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it
looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev In general - FAME models. They have annotations,
so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important
feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see
a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:
> Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
>
>> Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of
our metalled built from moose entities?
>>
>> Uko
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3:47 p.m.
No, I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll try to figure out something.
Thanks
Uko
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a screenshot
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.27.50 AM.png>
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:
okay.
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?
Alexandre
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about
pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my
model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I
need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for
the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see
all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the
non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
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Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it
looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
> In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have
which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to
use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my
nodes and relations between them.
>
> Uko
>
> On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:
>
>> Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML)
of our metalled built from moose entities?
>>>
>>> Uko
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15 Jan
11:15 a.m.
I am not sure I understand. Is what I described not suitable for you?
For example, this is the UML Diagram for FM3 (inheritance is horizontal):
[image: Inline image 1]
Cheers,
Doru
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
No, I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll try to figure out
something.
Thanks
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
wrote:
a screenshot
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.27.50 AM.png>
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
wrote:
okay.
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing
image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta
browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX,
I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the
other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily
understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the
item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want
to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which
properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important
feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now
I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between
them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to
UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
Uko
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3:46 p.m.
Hi Yuriy,
The MetaBrowser is not specific to FAMIX. It's just happens that by default
it opens on the default Fame repository which happens to contain FAMIX. So,
you can just open it on your repository.
For example, here it is opened on the FM3 itself:
MooseMetaBrowser new openOn: FMMetaRepository fm3
Then, from the top right menu of the Meta Browser you can spawn a simple
UML class diagram of the repository (Please update to the latest
RoassalPaintings version to have working properly).
Cheers,
Doru
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing
a button, printing
image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta
browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX,
I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the
other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily
understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the
item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want
to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which
properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important
feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now
I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between
them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to
UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
Uko
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