Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
Uko
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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okay. Are you aware of the example: ROMondrianExample new uml ? Does this help?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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a screenshot
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
okay. Are you aware of the example: ROMondrianExample new uml ? Does this help?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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No, I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll try to figure out something.
Thanks Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
a screenshot <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.27.50 AM.png>
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
okay. Are you aware of the example: ROMondrianExample new uml ? Does this help?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
> Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities? > > Uko > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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I am not sure I understand. Is what I described not suitable for you?
For example, this is the UML Diagram for FM3 (inheritance is horizontal):
[image: Inline image 1]
Cheers, Doru
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
No, I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll try to figure out something.
Thanks Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
a screenshot <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.27.50 AM.png>
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
okay. Are you aware of the example: ROMondrianExample new uml ? Does this help?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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Hi Yuriy,
The MetaBrowser is not specific to FAMIX. It's just happens that by default it opens on the default Fame repository which happens to contain FAMIX. So, you can just open it on your repository.
For example, here it is opened on the FM3 itself: MooseMetaBrowser new openOn: FMMetaRepository fm3
Then, from the top right menu of the Meta Browser you can spawn a simple UML class diagram of the repository (Please update to the latest RoassalPaintings version to have working properly).
Cheers, Doru
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1) it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
Uko
On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
Alexandre
On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk@me.com wrote:
Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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