Hi!
I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
Cheers, Alexandre
Hi,
Yes we will. We are, Olivier Auverlot and me, currently rewriting a parser and everything that goes with for Postgres. We rewrite it from the beginning having a look on SQLLite, because PetitParser is really hard to debug and we wanted to understand what we are doing. Olivier is also database administrator of the lab and he has some issues that we want to solve with these analyses. We already defined a Famix Model for Database and we are currently generating model with tables taking into account lot of different types and constraints (that’s the beginning). The project goes slowly since we are working maximum 6h per week. We will then certainly use Roassal for the visu.
Why are you asking the question? Cheers, Anne
Le 8 oct. 2014 à 15:10, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com a écrit :
Hi!
I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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I am just asking to understand where effort are put on in the Moose ecosystem. Visualizing databases may also be a nice chapter for agile visualization.
Alexandre
I have used it to visualize data in the database. I used DBXTalk for Oracle and the PostgresV2 for Postgres. Of course, these come with GTInspector extensions.
You can see a basic example for Postgres here: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-w...
Cheers, Doru
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote:
I am just asking to understand where effort are put on in the Moose ecosystem. Visualizing databases may also be a nice chapter for agile visualization.
Alexandre
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On Oct 8, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Anne Etien anne.etien@univ-lille1.fr wrote:
Hi,
Yes we will. We are, Olivier Auverlot and me, currently rewriting a parser and everything that goes with for Postgres. We rewrite it from the beginning having a look on SQLLite, because PetitParser is really hard to debug and we wanted to understand what we are doing. Olivier is also database administrator of the lab and he has some issues that we want to solve with these analyses. We already defined a Famix Model for Database and we are currently generating model with tables taking into account lot of different types and constraints (that’s the beginning). The project goes slowly since we are working maximum 6h per week. We will then certainly use Roassal for the visu.
Why are you asking the question? Cheers, Anne
Le 8 oct. 2014 à 15:10, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com a écrit :
Hi!
I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Very interesting. We will have a look.
Cheers, Anne Le 8 oct. 2014 à 17:00, Tudor Girba tudor@tudorgirba.com a écrit :
I have used it to visualize data in the database. I used DBXTalk for Oracle and the PostgresV2 for Postgres. Of course, these come with GTInspector extensions.
You can see a basic example for Postgres here: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-w...
Cheers, Doru
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com wrote: I am just asking to understand where effort are put on in the Moose ecosystem. Visualizing databases may also be a nice chapter for agile visualization.
Alexandre
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On Oct 8, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Anne Etien anne.etien@univ-lille1.fr wrote:
Hi,
Yes we will. We are, Olivier Auverlot and me, currently rewriting a parser and everything that goes with for Postgres. We rewrite it from the beginning having a look on SQLLite, because PetitParser is really hard to debug and we wanted to understand what we are doing. Olivier is also database administrator of the lab and he has some issues that we want to solve with these analyses. We already defined a Famix Model for Database and we are currently generating model with tables taking into account lot of different types and constraints (that’s the beginning). The project goes slowly since we are working maximum 6h per week. We will then certainly use Roassal for the visu.
Why are you asking the question? Cheers, Anne
Le 8 oct. 2014 à 15:10, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com a écrit :
Hi!
I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Thanks!
Alexandre
Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for
Alexandre
Hi Anne,
I'd be interested if you can share your parser effort, especially if I can push it to the SmaCC repository.
What do you find hard to debug with PetitParser? How are you doing it then?
Thierry
2014-10-08 15:42 GMT+02:00 Anne Etien anne.etien@univ-lille1.fr:
Hi,
Yes we will. We are, Olivier Auverlot and me, currently rewriting a parser and everything that goes with for Postgres. We rewrite it from the beginning having a look on SQLLite, because PetitParser is really hard to debug and we wanted to understand what we are doing. Olivier is also database administrator of the lab and he has some issues that we want to solve with these analyses. We already defined a Famix Model for Database and we are currently generating model with tables taking into account lot of different types and constraints (that's the beginning). The project goes slowly since we are working maximum 6h per week. We will then certainly use Roassal for the visu.
Why are you asking the question? Cheers, Anne
Le 8 oct. 2014 à 15:10, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com a écrit :
Hi!
I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Hi Thierry,
Our project is called PetitSQLIsland and is available on SmalltalkHub.
We got some problems on: - the end of the string to parse that is not recognized when writing a string in the playground - encoding errors - the priority between the / and the , - the infinite loops due to optional - we wanted to consider as a SQL string everything between quote ' '. But it is not possible to say it. And using #any may be dangerous because the reminder of the file may be considered as the string. The problem is worst when between these two quotes we may have another quote. - we are using the petitParserBrowser. Sometimes, we ask to generate an example, we copy it on the adequate box, but there is an error. Some other times, the test is working, but not the same example with the browser. Sometimes, we don't understand why it does not recognize the rule when using the debugger.
There should be others, but I don't remember. I am not sure that I understood well your question. i hope I answered it correctly.
Cheers, Anne
Hi Anne,
I'd be interested if you can share your parser effort, especially if I can push it to the SmaCC repository.
What do you find hard to debug with PetitParser? How are you doing it then?
Thierry
2014-10-08 15:42 GMT+02:00 Anne Etien anne.etien@univ-lille1.fr: Hi,
Yes we will. We are, Olivier Auverlot and me, currently rewriting a parser and everything that goes with for Postgres. We rewrite it from the beginning having a look on SQLLite, because PetitParser is really hard to debug and we wanted to understand what we are doing. Olivier is also database administrator of the lab and he has some issues that we want to solve with these analyses. We already defined a Famix Model for Database and we are currently generating model with tables taking into account lot of different types and constraints (that’s the beginning). The project goes slowly since we are working maximum 6h per week. We will then certainly use Roassal for the visu.
Why are you asking the question? Cheers, Anne
Le 8 oct. 2014 à 15:10, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel@me.com a écrit :
Hi!
I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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I remember Yuriy showing some Roassal visaulizations of his analysis of the dump of SmalltalkHub (mongo DB)
nicolas
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I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
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Oh, right. I’ve never thought that I was analysing DB :). On the other hand db is just a way to persist data.
Uko
On 10 Oct 2014, at 09:46, Nicolas Anquetil Nicolas.Anquetil@inria.fr wrote:
I remember Yuriy showing some Roassal visaulizations of his analysis of the dump of SmalltalkHub (mongo DB)
nicolas
On 08/10/2014 15:10, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
I am wondering if any of you is using Roassal and/or Moose to analyze data bases?
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu http://www.bergel.eu/ ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Ok!!
Alexandre
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