2 Dec
2014
2 Dec
'14
6:02 p.m.
Hi, sorry for bothering, but I’m trying to understand what I can use to build cool UIs.
And with GToolkit I’ve started to think about Glamour. I’ve read a chapter in Deep Into
Pharo book, and all there is in Moose Book. And everywhere there is this idea of “flow”,
that one parts of visualization, are representing something transmitted from other parts.
There are a lot of cases when I want to do something that does not have this notion of a
flow. For example I want to have a main view and then use some widgets to modify it, or I
have two representations of the same model and want to keep them in sync. Should I use a
“dynamic presentation” for that? Are there any real projects like that, to see how they
are implemented?
Uko
2 Dec
2 Dec
7:36 p.m.
I think that the strength behind Glamour is the idea of this flow. But this means that
when there is no such flow in your UI then Glamour does not really work. I tried strange
things with AspectMaps some time ago, and I could make it work, kindof, but the code was
ugly, hard to understand and in the end I did not really get what I wanted.
Maybe it would be worthwhile to write the non-flow part of your UI in Spec as
ComposableModels, and then combine these as separate presentations inside Glamour. I never
tried that, because AspectMaps predates Spec.
On Dec 2, 2014, at 14:02, Yuriy Tymchuk
<yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Hi, sorry for bothering, but I’m trying to understand what I can use to build cool UIs.
And with GToolkit I’ve started to think about Glamour. I’ve read a chapter in Deep Into
Pharo book, and all there is in Moose Book. And everywhere there is this idea of “flow”,
that one parts of visualization, are representing something transmitted from other parts.
There are a lot of cases when I want to do something that does not have this notion of a
flow. For example I want to have a main view and then use some widgets to modify it, or I
have two representations of the same model and want to keep them in sync. Should I use a
“dynamic presentation” for that? Are there any real projects like that, to see how they
are implemented?
Uko
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8:51 p.m.
2014-12-02 19:36 GMT+01:00 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>cl>:
I think that the strength behind Glamour is the idea of this flow. But
this means that when there is no such flow in your UI then Glamour does not
really work.
Flow does not only means "flowing ui elements", but the flow of data
between those (static) elements.
9:02 p.m.
On Dec 2, 2014, at 16:51, Nicolai Hess
<nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote:
2014-12-02 19:36 GMT+01:00 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>cl>:
I think that the strength behind Glamour is the idea of this flow. But this means that
when there is no such flow in your UI then Glamour does not really work.
Flow does not only means "flowing ui elements", but the flow of data between
those (static) elements.
Yes, the flow of data between the different presentations, this is exactly what I meant.
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9:09 p.m.
2014-12-02 14:02 GMT-03:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>om>:
Hi, sorry for bothering, but I’m trying to understand
what I can use to
build cool UIs. And with GToolkit I’ve started to think about Glamour. I’ve
read a chapter in Deep Into Pharo book, and all there is in Moose Book. And
everywhere there is this idea of “flow”, that one parts of visualization,
are representing something transmitted from other parts. There are a lot of
cases when I want to do something that does not have this notion of a flow.
For example I want to have a main view and then use some widgets to modify
it,
This could be done using Spec.
Hernán
9:21 p.m.
There you have flow from multiple panes to one. Can be done with Glamour
Stephan
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Op 2 dec. 2014 om 21:09 heeft Hernán Morales Durand
<hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
2014-12-02 14:02 GMT-03:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>om>:
Hi, sorry for bothering, but I’m trying to
understand what I can use to build cool UIs. And with GToolkit I’ve started to think about
Glamour. I’ve read a chapter in Deep Into Pharo book, and all there is in Moose Book. And
everywhere there is this idea of “flow”, that one parts of visualization, are representing
something transmitted from other parts. There are a lot of cases when I want to do
something that does not have this notion of a flow. For example I want to have a main view
and then use some widgets to modify it,
This could be done using Spec.
Hernán
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