vedea: new microsoft scripting graphices.... http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4691
The future of mondrian may be in Cairo support or Juan works. So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :) Stef
vedea: new microsoft scripting graphices.... http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4691
Indeed, we're not alone.
The future of mondrian may be in Cairo support or Juan works. So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
I haven't closely looked at it, but Cairo is extremely promising in that respect. I will have a look at it during this holidays.
Alexandre
Indeed, it would be great to have processing hooked with Pharo.Alberto and Lukas worked on getting the Javascript version of Processing integrated with Seaside, and they have a prototype. It would be super great if we could have the same for the regular image.
Maybe someone that knows FFI/Alien could take a look at that?
Cheers, Doru
On 4 Dec 2009, at 00:12, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
vedea: new microsoft scripting graphices.... http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4691
Indeed, we're not alone.
The future of mondrian may be in Cairo support or Juan works. So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
I haven't closely looked at it, but Cairo is extremely promising in that respect. I will have a look at it during this holidays.
Alexandre
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Hi,
So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
What exactly should I load from PharoTaskForces to get Cairo?
I see several Rome related packages, but which ones are needed? Is there a load script?
Cheers, Doru
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On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
What exactly should I load from PharoTaskForces to get Cairo?
I do not really know: Rome-Core Rome-Canvas and Rome-Cairo.
I see several Rome related packages, but which ones are needed? Is there a load script?
No for now I just save the packages that were in Sophie-dev I know that alain loaded some of the Cairo packages for his experimentations. Now a script is the first step than after identifying what is working not working.
You can have a look also at Sophie-dev image.
Cheers, Doru
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Hi!
I just give a try to load Cairo. First, I went to http://www.squeaksource.com/Rome.html and downloaded what is suggested. Then I went to http://www.cairographics.org and downloaded cairo, and used my unix skills to compile it properly. Some of the Rome demo works, but most of them need the RomePlugin is apparently needed. Unfortunately, I cannot find this plugin.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Dec 2009, at 07:18, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
What exactly should I load from PharoTaskForces to get Cairo?
I see several Rome related packages, but which ones are needed? Is there a load script?
Cheers, Doru
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why don't you read the pharo list. I mentioned that I extracted the packages from Sophie and published them in PharoTaskForces.
Stef
On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
I just give a try to load Cairo. First, I went to http://www.squeaksource.com/Rome.html and downloaded what is suggested. Then I went to http://www.cairographics.org and downloaded cairo, and used my unix skills to compile it properly. Some of the Rome demo works, but most of them need the RomePlugin is apparently needed. Unfortunately, I cannot find this plugin.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Dec 2009, at 07:18, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
What exactly should I load from PharoTaskForces to get Cairo?
I see several Rome related packages, but which ones are needed? Is there a load script?
Cheers, Doru
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why don't you read the pharo list. I mentioned that I extracted the packages from Sophie and published them in PharoTaskForces.
I am talking about the plugin, not the Pharo packages. I was able to load them without problem. But I cannot run the example because of the plugin problem.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
I just give a try to load Cairo. First, I went to http://www.squeaksource.com/Rome.html and downloaded what is suggested. Then I went to http://www.cairographics.org and downloaded cairo, and used my unix skills to compile it properly. Some of the Rome demo works, but most of them need the RomePlugin is apparently needed. Unfortunately, I cannot find this plugin.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Dec 2009, at 07:18, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
What exactly should I load from PharoTaskForces to get Cairo?
I see several Rome related packages, but which ones are needed? Is there a load script?
Cheers, Doru
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On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
why don't you read the pharo list. I mentioned that I extracted the packages from Sophie and published them in PharoTaskForces.
I am talking about the plugin, not the Pharo packages. I was able to load them without problem.
but you should not take the ones that are in squeaksource (may be) but to take the ones that were with sophie-dev since the rome repository is not clear to me. Now if you see that they are the same (i.e., sophie-dev pubslihed in squeaksource) let us know
Alain from where did you take your version?
But I cannot run the example because of the plugin problem.
Some examples do not work. that I know.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
I just give a try to load Cairo. First, I went to http://www.squeaksource.com/Rome.html and downloaded what is suggested. Then I went to http://www.cairographics.org and downloaded cairo, and used my unix skills to compile it properly. Some of the Rome demo works, but most of them need the RomePlugin is apparently needed. Unfortunately, I cannot find this plugin.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Dec 2009, at 07:18, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
> So consider to have a look at the cairo package in > PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
What exactly should I load from PharoTaskForces to get Cairo?
I see several Rome related packages, but which ones are needed? Is there a load script?
Cheers, Doru
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If you can stick the image/changes somewhere with instructions and send me a link, then I'll at least check to see why the plugin won't load. At least on the macintosh.
Or if you are using the macintosh you should alter the info.plist of the macintosh VM you are using and set SqueakDebug to 1 Then it will print stuff to the console, like why a plugin didn't load.
On 2009-12-04, at 5:52 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
why don't you read the pharo list. I mentioned that I extracted the packages from Sophie and published them in PharoTaskForces.
I am talking about the plugin, not the Pharo packages. I was able to load them without problem. But I cannot run the example because of the plugin problem.
Cheers, Alexandre
On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
I just give a try to load Cairo. First, I went to http://www.squeaksource.com/Rome.html and downloaded what is suggested. Then I went to http://www.cairographics.org and downloaded cairo, and used my unix skills to compile it properly. Some of the Rome demo works, but most of them need the RomePlugin is apparently needed. Unfortunately, I cannot find this plugin.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Dec 2009, at 07:18, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
> So consider to have a look at the cairo package in > PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
What exactly should I load from PharoTaskForces to get Cairo?
I see several Rome related packages, but which ones are needed? Is there a load script?
Cheers, Doru
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may be we could do a call for a student project.
Stef
On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Indeed, it would be great to have processing hooked with Pharo.Alberto and Lukas worked on getting the Javascript version of Processing integrated with Seaside, and they have a prototype. It would be super great if we could have the same for the regular image.
Maybe someone that knows FFI/Alien could take a look at that?
Cheers, Doru
On 4 Dec 2009, at 00:12, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
vedea: new microsoft scripting graphices.... http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4691
Indeed, we're not alone.
The future of mondrian may be in Cairo support or Juan works. So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
I haven't closely looked at it, but Cairo is extremely promising in that respect. I will have a look at it during this holidays.
Alexandre
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Maybe someone that knows FFI/Alien could take a look at that?
Yesterday evening I spent a couple of hours to play with processing. It is a nice framework indeed. However it is written in Java. I feel that a bit more than FII/Alien is needed, Java Native Interface will be probably be required. Maybe JavaConnect can play a role in this.
I will try Rome.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Dec 2009, at 00:12, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
vedea: new microsoft scripting graphices.... http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4691
Indeed, we're not alone.
The future of mondrian may be in Cairo support or Juan works. So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
I haven't closely looked at it, but Cairo is extremely promising in that respect. I will have a look at it during this holidays.
Alexandre
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Hi,
I think I saw somewhere that processing communicates with C, that is why I thought about FFI/Alien.
Doru
On 4 Dec 2009, at 13:34, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Maybe someone that knows FFI/Alien could take a look at that?
Yesterday evening I spent a couple of hours to play with processing. It is a nice framework indeed. However it is written in Java. I feel that a bit more than FII/Alien is needed, Java Native Interface will be probably be required. Maybe JavaConnect can play a role in this.
I will try Rome.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Dec 2009, at 00:12, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
vedea: new microsoft scripting graphices.... http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4691
Indeed, we're not alone.
The future of mondrian may be in Cairo support or Juan works. So consider to have a look at the cairo package in PharoTaskForces because it will not come to you alone :)
I haven't closely looked at it, but Cairo is extremely promising in that respect. I will have a look at it during this holidays.
Alexandre
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