Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
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"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
Hi,
I would like to get a final 4.0 release in 2 weeks. It would be great if you could try this image and report problems.
There are 3 more issues marked as 4.0 on the tracker. They are not necessarily critical, although they would be nice to have. I will try to tackle the Glamour ones, but I would be more inclined to go for the release rather than for new features.
Feedback is welcome :)
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"When people care, great things can happen."
The 4.0 beta 5 propose an option to import Monticello packages. The idea I had when I defined this was to look at the local package cache and let the user select the package (s)he wants to import. In the beta, there is no such package. What stance should be adopt? Simply disable the function if there is no packages in the cache? I guess it would make sense wouldn't it?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:35, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I would like to get a final 4.0 release in 2 weeks. It would be great if you could try this image and report problems.
There are 3 more issues marked as 4.0 on the tracker. They are not necessarily critical, although they would be nice to have. I will try to tackle the Glamour ones, but I would be more inclined to go for the release rather than for new features.
Feedback is welcome :)
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"When people care, great things can happen."
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That could be an idea. Yet another idea would be to just say that there are no packages available.
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The 4.0 beta 5 propose an option to import Monticello packages. The idea I had when I defined this was to look at the local package cache and let the user select the package (s)he wants to import. In the beta, there is no such package. What stance should be adopt? Simply disable the function if there is no packages in the cache? I guess it would make sense wouldn't it?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:35, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I would like to get a final 4.0 release in 2 weeks. It would be great if you could try this image and report problems.
There are 3 more issues marked as 4.0 on the tracker. They are not necessarily critical, although they would be nice to have. I will try to tackle the Glamour ones, but I would be more inclined to go for the release rather than for new features.
Feedback is welcome :)
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"When people care, great things can happen."
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I will do it.
Alexandre
On 24 Feb 2010, at 19:05, Tudor Girba wrote:
That could be an idea. Yet another idea would be to just say that there are no packages available.
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The 4.0 beta 5 propose an option to import Monticello packages. The idea I had when I defined this was to look at the local package cache and let the user select the package (s)he wants to import. In the beta, there is no such package. What stance should be adopt? Simply disable the function if there is no packages in the cache? I guess it would make sense wouldn't it?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:35, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I would like to get a final 4.0 release in 2 weeks. It would be great if you could try this image and report problems.
There are 3 more issues marked as 4.0 on the tracker. They are not necessarily critical, although they would be nice to have. I will try to tackle the Glamour ones, but I would be more inclined to go for the release rather than for new features.
Feedback is welcome :)
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"When people care, great things can happen."
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I added and closed an issue http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=331
Moose-Finder-Alexandre_Bergel.179 & Moose-MonticelloImporter- Alexandre_Bergel.11 : Open an inform window if the list of Monticello packages is empty
Cheers, Alexandre
On 24 Feb 2010, at 19:28, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I will do it.
Alexandre
On 24 Feb 2010, at 19:05, Tudor Girba wrote:
That could be an idea. Yet another idea would be to just say that there are no packages available.
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The 4.0 beta 5 propose an option to import Monticello packages. The idea I had when I defined this was to look at the local package cache and let the user select the package (s)he wants to import. In the beta, there is no such package. What stance should be adopt? Simply disable the function if there is no packages in the cache? I guess it would make sense wouldn't it?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:35, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I would like to get a final 4.0 release in 2 weeks. It would be great if you could try this image and report problems.
There are 3 more issues marked as 4.0 on the tracker. They are not necessarily critical, although they would be nice to have. I will try to tackle the Glamour ones, but I would be more inclined to go for the release rather than for new features.
Feedback is welcome :)
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"When people care, great things can happen."
Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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I just found a bug:
Select 'Import from Java sourceFiles with inFusion', press OK, then press cancel. An error is raised. Apparently the instance variable moosePanel in MPImportJavaSourceFilesWithInFusionCommand>>updateModelList is nil, raising an error when a message is sent.
I can work on it if necessary.
Issue #326
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:35, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I would like to get a final 4.0 release in 2 weeks. It would be great if you could try this image and report problems.
There are 3 more issues marked as 4.0 on the tracker. They are not necessarily critical, although they would be nice to have. I will try to tackle the Glamour ones, but I would be more inclined to go for the release rather than for new features.
Feedback is welcome :)
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"When people care, great things can happen."
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Hi Alex,
Thanks for the report. Indeed, this is a problem.
It would be great if people could report more similar such problems so that we can get rid of obvious problems that would push back newcomers.
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:36, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I just found a bug:
Select 'Import from Java sourceFiles with inFusion', press OK, then press cancel. An error is raised. Apparently the instance variable moosePanel in MPImportJavaSourceFilesWithInFusionCommand>>updateModelList is nil, raising an error when a message is sent.
I can work on it if necessary.
Issue #326
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:35, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I would like to get a final 4.0 release in 2 weeks. It would be great if you could try this image and report problems.
There are 3 more issues marked as 4.0 on the tracker. They are not necessarily critical, although they would be nice to have. I will try to tackle the Glamour ones, but I would be more inclined to go for the release rather than for new features.
Feedback is welcome :)
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"When people care, great things can happen."
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"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
When I import a model, I cannot do a right-click on an item in the glamour browser. This is not the first time that it occurs... Am I the only one to experience this?
I simply try a Cmd-Click on the touchpad. I have the World menu when I try in the background, but nothing appear when I Cmd-Click in a list entry. This is really annoying. Maybe it has to do with the recent change in the list widget...
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
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Hi Alex,
Menu is raised by a right (secondary) click on any platform. Cmd+Click is not right click, it is just abused by Pharo. Cmd+Click in a list leads to select/deselect (like expected in any widget set on Mac or Windows).
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
When I import a model, I cannot do a right-click on an item in the glamour browser. This is not the first time that it occurs... Am I the only one to experience this?
I simply try a Cmd-Click on the touchpad. I have the World menu when I try in the background, but nothing appear when I Cmd-Click in a list entry. This is really annoying. Maybe it has to do with the recent change in the list widget...
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
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"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
So, there is no way to manually do a right click without a physical mouse? Although I do not have a solution, that sounds odd to me.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 24 Feb 2010, at 19:03, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Alex,
Menu is raised by a right (secondary) click on any platform. Cmd +Click is not right click, it is just abused by Pharo. Cmd+Click in a list leads to select/deselect (like expected in any widget set on Mac or Windows).
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
When I import a model, I cannot do a right-click on an item in the glamour browser. This is not the first time that it occurs... Am I the only one to experience this?
I simply try a Cmd-Click on the touchpad. I have the World menu when I try in the background, but nothing appear when I Cmd-Click in a list entry. This is really annoying. Maybe it has to do with the recent change in the list widget...
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
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Yes there is. Most non-Mac laptops come with an explicit secondary click button. If you have a Mac, using two fingers on the trackpad should do the job as well.
Cheers, Doru
On 25 Feb 2010, at 13:59, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
So, there is no way to manually do a right click without a physical mouse? Although I do not have a solution, that sounds odd to me.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 24 Feb 2010, at 19:03, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Alex,
Menu is raised by a right (secondary) click on any platform. Cmd +Click is not right click, it is just abused by Pharo. Cmd+Click in a list leads to select/deselect (like expected in any widget set on Mac or Windows).
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
When I import a model, I cannot do a right-click on an item in the glamour browser. This is not the first time that it occurs... Am I the only one to experience this?
I simply try a Cmd-Click on the touchpad. I have the World menu when I try in the background, but nothing appear when I Cmd-Click in a list entry. This is really annoying. Maybe it has to do with the recent change in the list widget...
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution."
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"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
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"Obvious things are difficult to teach."
Thanks! You already mentioned this to me in the past, I should have remembered it.
Alexandre
On 25 Feb 2010, at 10:03, Tudor Girba wrote:
Yes there is. Most non-Mac laptops come with an explicit secondary click button. If you have a Mac, using two fingers on the trackpad should do the job as well.
Cheers, Doru
On 25 Feb 2010, at 13:59, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
So, there is no way to manually do a right click without a physical mouse? Although I do not have a solution, that sounds odd to me.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 24 Feb 2010, at 19:03, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Alex,
Menu is raised by a right (secondary) click on any platform. Cmd +Click is not right click, it is just abused by Pharo. Cmd+Click in a list leads to select/deselect (like expected in any widget set on Mac or Windows).
Cheers, Doru
On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
When I import a model, I cannot do a right-click on an item in the glamour browser. This is not the first time that it occurs... Am I the only one to experience this?
I simply try a Cmd-Click on the touchpad. I have the World menu when I try in the background, but nothing appear when I Cmd-Click in a list entry. This is really annoying. Maybe it has to do with the recent change in the list widget...
Cheers, Alexandre
On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:29, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Moose Suite 4.0 beta 5 is now available for download: http://www.moosetechnology.org/download
The same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.5') load.
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
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