Hi!
Since some of you are working on remodularizing code, maybe the following may inspire you.
In Mondrian, the tests are badly structured. I actually wrote a large part of them as a way for me to understand the initial version of Mondrian, back in 2007-2008. Most of the tests are contained in the class MOViewRendererTest. They actually contain a lot of duplicated scenario (not really code): I open a canvas, put some nodes and edges, run the layout...
I would like to cut this class into smaller unit tests. Fixture will have to be found for each new unit tests. How to structure them? Along the class hierarchy? Along the features of Mondrian? Along the features commonly used in Mondrian scripts (which is how they are roughly structured)?
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Cheers, Alexandre
yes this is a nice case :)
Stef
On Dec 30, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Since some of you are working on remodularizing code, maybe the following may inspire you.
In Mondrian, the tests are badly structured. I actually wrote a large part of them as a way for me to understand the initial version of Mondrian, back in 2007-2008. Most of the tests are contained in the class MOViewRendererTest. They actually contain a lot of duplicated scenario (not really code): I open a canvas, put some nodes and edges, run the layout...
I would like to cut this class into smaller unit tests. Fixture will have to be found for each new unit tests. How to structure them? Along the class hierarchy? Along the features of Mondrian? Along the features commonly used in Mondrian scripts (which is how they are roughly structured)?
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Cheers, Alexandre
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Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
That really sounds exciting. For a given piece of code, I would like to search how people use it, how they test it, how they extend it, ...
:-) Alexandre
On 30 Dec 2010, at 16:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
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Hi,
Is your engine available?
Cheers, Doru
On 30 Dec 2010, at 20:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
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Doru,
The development of the search engine is still in progress. Hopefully it can be ready by May 2011. I am doing it as my undergraduate's degree Final Year Project. Thanks.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Is your engine available?
Cheers, Doru
On 30 Dec 2010, at 20:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
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Hi Zhe-Xi Lim
in which university and research group are you working?
Stef
On Dec 31, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Doru,
The development of the search engine is still in progress. Hopefully it can be ready by May 2011. I am doing it as my undergraduate's degree Final Year Project. Thanks.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Is your engine available?
Cheers, Doru
On 30 Dec 2010, at 20:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
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Hi Stephane,
I am currently pursuing a bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering at Multimedia University, Malaysia. I have immense interests in computer science and programming languages, therefore I am taking this project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes.
My supervisor is Dr. Ian Chai at Multimedia University. I am also working under the guidance of Dr. Aik-Siong Koh.
I believe this project can be extended to a larger ones to build a global Smalltalk image and with this seach engine equipped with a kind of artificial intelligent, redundancy in Smalltalk codes could be minimized. Perhaps I need to continue my graduate studies on this topic.
Thanks.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi Zhe-Xi Lim
in which university and research group are you working?
Stef
On Dec 31, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Doru,
The development of the search engine is still in progress. Hopefully it can be ready by May 2011. I am doing it as my undergraduate's degree Final Year Project. Thanks.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Is your engine available?
Cheers, Doru
On 30 Dec 2010, at 20:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
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Doru,
The development of the search engine is still in progress. Hopefully it can be ready by May 2011. I am doing it as my undergraduate's degree Final Year Project. Thanks.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Is your engine available?
Cheers, Doru
On 30 Dec 2010, at 20:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
Regards, Zhe-Xi -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Problem-worth-working-on-tp3168620p3168648.html Sent from the Moose mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Keep us informed
Cheers, Alexandre
On 31 Dec 2010, at 03:49, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Doru,
The development of the search engine is still in progress. Hopefully it can be ready by May 2011. I am doing it as my undergraduate's degree Final Year Project. Thanks.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Is your engine available?
Cheers, Doru
On 30 Dec 2010, at 20:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
Regards, Zhe-Xi -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Problem-worth-working-on-tp3168620p3168648.html Sent from the Moose mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Alexendre,
No problem, will inform here when I have developed it. Thanks and stay tuned!
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Keep us informed
Cheers, Alexandre
On 31 Dec 2010, at 03:49, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Doru,
The development of the search engine is still in progress. Hopefully it can be ready by May 2011. I am doing it as my undergraduate's degree Final Year Project. Thanks.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
Is your engine available?
Cheers, Doru
On 30 Dec 2010, at 20:12, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Yes, maybe my final year project: Search Engine in Smalltalk for Smalltalk Codes could help.
The search engine can retrieve information on source codes in smalltalk image and list out the best results for queries entered. Maybe you can use that search tool to get what is redundant in Mondrian.
Hopefully the search engine is powerful enough to bring easiness to Smalltalk users.
Regards, Zhe-Xi -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Problem-worth-working-on-tp3168620p3168648.html Sent from the Moose mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Keep us informed
Cheers, Alexandre
Hi Alexandre,
The search engine is already done. But it's developed in Squeak. Hope you can take a look at it. It is now available in Squeak Source: http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html
Thanks and Regards, Zhe-Xi
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Hi!
Thanks for getting back to us. I checked http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html and I got an "Error: "StGoogle.html" not found."
Cheers, Alexandre
On 2 Apr 2011, at 15:11, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Keep us informed
Cheers, Alexandre
Hi Alexandre,
The search engine is already done. But it's developed in Squeak. Hope you can take a look at it. It is now available in Squeak Source: http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html
Thanks and Regards, Zhe-Xi
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Alexandre,
Sorry, I had move the project to http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html . Please be informed.
I noticed that you are an expert in Smalltalk. You are my hero! Hope I can learn things from you.
Thanks.
Zhe-Xi
Alexandre Bergel-7 wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for getting back to us. I checked http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html and I got an "Error: "StGoogle.html" not found."
Cheers, Alexandre
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Sorry, I had move the project to http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html . Please be informed.
I have a deadline this Friday. I will have a look at it asap
Cheers, Alexandre
I noticed that you are an expert in Smalltalk. You are my hero! Hope I can learn things from you.
Thanks.
Zhe-Xi
Alexandre Bergel-7 wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for getting back to us. I checked http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html and I got an "Error: "StGoogle.html" not found."
Cheers, Alexandre
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I just gave a try. Just a few comment: - Can you add some tests to your project? MessageSet subclass: #StSearchBrowser
- When I do "StSearchBrowser openStSearchBrowser" I get a "self halt".
- After the source code indexing, I get a does not understand for buildWindowWith:specs:
Having a configuration would be cool. Maybe you can use the MetacelloBrowser?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Apr 2011, at 10:58, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre,
Sorry, I had move the project to http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html . Please be informed.
I noticed that you are an expert in Smalltalk. You are my hero! Hope I can learn things from you.
Thanks.
Zhe-Xi
Alexandre Bergel-7 wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for getting back to us. I checked http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html and I got an "Error: "StGoogle.html" not found."
Cheers, Alexandre
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Ok, I will give a try on that.
Thank you.
Regards, Zhe-Xi
-----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Bergel Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 4:53 AM To: Moose-related development Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: Problem worth working on
I just gave a try. Just a few comment: - Can you add some tests to your project? MessageSet subclass: #StSearchBrowser
- When I do "StSearchBrowser openStSearchBrowser" I get a "self halt".
- After the source code indexing, I get a does not understand for buildWindowWith:specs:
Having a configuration would be cool. Maybe you can use the MetacelloBrowser?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 4 Apr 2011, at 10:58, Zhe-Xi Lim wrote:
Alexandre,
Sorry, I had move the project to http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html http://www.squeaksource.com/StSearch.html . Please be informed.
I noticed that you are an expert in Smalltalk. You are my hero! Hope I can learn things from you.
Thanks.
Zhe-Xi
Alexandre Bergel-7 wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for getting back to us. I checked http://www.squeaksource.com/StGoogle.html and I got an "Error: "StGoogle.html" not found."
Cheers, Alexandre
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I think that using FCA with sender or access you should get testmethods grouped by users or the inverse.
Stef
On Dec 30, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Since some of you are working on remodularizing code, maybe the following may inspire you.
In Mondrian, the tests are badly structured. I actually wrote a large part of them as a way for me to understand the initial version of Mondrian, back in 2007-2008. Most of the tests are contained in the class MOViewRendererTest. They actually contain a lot of duplicated scenario (not really code): I open a canvas, put some nodes and edges, run the layout...
I would like to cut this class into smaller unit tests. Fixture will have to be found for each new unit tests. How to structure them? Along the class hierarchy? Along the features of Mondrian? Along the features commonly used in Mondrian scripts (which is how they are roughly structured)?
I can remodularize my tests and come up with a satisfactory design in a couple of hours. But maybe someone worked on a tool that would help me on this.
Cheers, Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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