[Moose-dev] Re: srcML for C++ and Java

Perhaps having a look at Opax would ease a bit in getting from XML to objects in the image.

On 30 Apr 2010, at 17:18, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > How the elements composing the AST can be represented. Maybe xml > queries are enough at that level... > > Alexandre > > > On 30 Apr 2010, at 09:02, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> It is cost that I had in mind from the beginning. Now, we have >> CAnalyzer in place, so I guess it would be quite cheap to >> generalize it a bit and to hook it with the FAMIXFileAnchor to >> get an AST of it. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 30 Apr 2010, at 09:06, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> well probably now with how much effort. >>> >>> stef >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Exactly. >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> On 30 Apr 2010, at 05:47, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> A model originally created with inFusion, could then be >>>>> refined by loading srcML files, to add for example AST info. >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Apr 2010, at 09:53, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Another related idea is to not use srcML for the main >>>>>> parsing, but to keep it around for custom queries. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, we could still keep the current solution with inFusion >>>>>> for the main models, and have srcML for when we want to >>>>>> write queries that need access to AST. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, if you do not have the right libraries, >>>>>> inFusion will not create annotation objects. If I would >>>>>> have access to the AST, I could write a query (even if it >>>>>> is expensive at first) that checks the AST of class for the >>>>>> existence of such annotations. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would use this. And maybe like this the srcML interface >>>>>> would grow in time and get better. What do you think? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 Apr 2010, at 14:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> As Simon said, the type resolution in C is easy. In C++ it >>>>>>> is another beast. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 Apr 2010, at 04:47, Simon Denier wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28 avr. 2010, at 10:36, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the problem is that meta model is different so you would >>>>>>>>> have to map everything. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Besides, from what I have seen, the generated xml is >>>>>>>> sometimes not regular: i.e. similar things in the code >>>>>>>> does not have the same xml representation. This makes it >>>>>>>> cumbersome as it is not documented, so you have to decode >>>>>>>> the grammar from the xml and adapt to such irregularities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the end, you still have to maintain a xml parser for >>>>>>>> each language and you still dont have control about what >>>>>>>> is extracted. And you have to do the type resolution :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Laval Jannik wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am looking at srcML, and I see that it make XML files >>>>>>>>>> from Java and C++ source code. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Since we use it for C source code, it should be >>>>>>>>>> possible to make it works with C++ and java. >>>>>>>>>> This strategy allows us to not us a special tool for >>>>>>>>>> each language. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What do you think about it ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> Jannik Laval >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Yesterday is a fact. >> Tomorrow is a possibility. >> Today is a challenge." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev