30 May
2011
30 May
'11
8:56 p.m.
Hi,
Currently you can select an inner node but you can't drag it. That is
because the position of an inner node is determined by the position of its
parent. However, I think that the implementation could be change properly.
Cheers,
Santiago
2011/5/30 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>
Hi,
Looks good. However, I think there is a problem: the inner nodes do drag
together with the parent node, but I would also like to be able to interact
with the inner nodes (e.g., drag or click). Is this a conceptual problem, or
is it simple a missing implementation?
Cheers,
Doru
On 30 May 2011, at 18:22, Santiago Vidal wrote:
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Sorry, the tittle is wrong. They are inner nodes.
I use this example
code:
view nodes: (1 to: 5) forEach: [:each |
view nodes: (1 to: each).
view gridLayout ]
2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
Yes, this is what I see. But the image is named inner edges and I do not
see any
edge.
An edge is a line
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 30 May 2011, at 11:12, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> You should see this
> <InnerEdges.png>
>
> 2011/5/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
> Good start!
> In innerEdgesExampleWithAbsolutePosition.html I do not see any edge. Am
I the
only one? I use Safari and OSX.
>
> Can you try with _large_ visualization? Try to import the whole Moose
and
generate the visualizations.
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 30 May 2011, at 10:52, Santiago Vidal wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have been working in visualization examples of complexity, inner
nodes, and distribution map. I used for these examples the second option
that we discuss previously. The examples are in the attachment.
> > Cheers
> > Santiago
> >
> > 2011/5/27 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>
> > Hi,
> >
> > You should go for both options.
> >
> > Start with 2, and for 1, you will create new MondrianLayouts that
will
only work directly with Protovis.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Doru
> >
> >
> > On 27 May 2011, at 19:02, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know yet. In principle I'm going to implement the drag
&
drop behavior. In going to try to make an example using the Mondrian
representation for Monday.
> > >
> > > 2011/5/27 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>
> > >
> > > I agree with Alex, but I have a question: how do you plan to handle
interactions, more specifically node replacement operations?
> > >
> > > On 27 May 2011, at 12:22, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> > >
> > > > I feel we should opt for 2).
> > > > We should export the visualization using Protovis, not recoding
Mondrian in Protovis.
> > > >
> > > > Alexandre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 27 May 2011, at 12:19, Santiago Vidal wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >> I have been working in the visualization of the inner nodes. In
general I have 2 options to work with protovis:
> > > >> • Be independent of
the data by means of the use of
Protovis Layouts.
> > > >> • Copy the same
visualization that is used by Mondrian.
That is create a Protovis canvas of the
same size that the canvas of
Mondrian and place each shape in Protovis in the same location that in the
canvas of Mondrian.
> > > >> While the first option is
more modifiable than the second, it
implies the creation of new layouts when they
are needed.
> > > >> The main advantage of the
second option is that the generated
html file could be interactive (such as the
example that I send before).
However, it doesn't improve the graphics generated by Mondrian.
> > > >> What do you think is the
best option?
> > > >> Cheers
> > > >> Santiago
> > >
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