I confirm that I'm always changing the theme. The main reason is that there
is no contrast at all.
For the usability experiments with people, I had a teaches on Moose with
other INRIA engineers (who doesn't use pharo) and the first comment was
that the look is not friendly at all and they had difficulties with it.
2014-04-04 22:13 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>om>:
Thanks for the input.
If you say it like that there are little chances of changing anything. The
only way we can improve is to know why something does not work. Only when
we know the reasons can we start to react properly. So, please do let us
know what does not work.
Just because it is about the way something looks does not mean that we
cannot have a structure discussion about it.
Please note that I am not saying that the white theme is the ultimate
design. It is not. But, to find other means of expressions we have to leave
the classic one and build simple things in simple ways. The white theme has
a small amount of visual variables which goes hand in hand with the
philosophy of Pharo. This is something to nurture, not to push away. If
something does not work for a reason then we look at it. For example, when
the scrolling did not work, we changed the color. I want to spend the
energy in doing that, but I need your input.
Just for the record, I am doing similar usability experiments with people
that do not know Pharo upfront, and they seem to have no problem finding
their way. So, it is not quite as random as it might appear.
Doru
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
For the record, I am not so happy with the white theme either.
On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>
wrote:
Hi
I checked here in rmod and I realized that NOBODY uses the white theme
and I
realized that I was not the only one to
get fedup with it. So when can it be not the
default one?
Stef
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