[Moose-dev] moose, moose-dev etc

I imagine and yes you are welcome. stef On 27 nov. 07, at 01:52, Toon Verwaest wrote: > Is there a possibility for me to join this list? Or is it board > only? I > believe this concerns me too, at least... > > Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi Stef, >> >> Please keep these emails on moose(a)iam.unibe.ch at the moment, as >> it is >> the job of the Board to settle it. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >> >>> sorry for shouting and putting the mess. Here is my analysis of >>> my >>> idiot behavior >>> So do not hesitate to send my stones. I think that there is >>> something to consider >>> our communication medium is email (at least for the people >>> outisde >>> of bern) and >>> sometimes the communication is noisy. >>> >>> >>> doru >>> >>> I think that I over reacted about the license. So may be I was >>> stupid but may be this is also that the situation was really not >>> clear. I'm trying to understand why I was so touched by the >>> topic >>> (beside been burnt by squeak over the last 4 years). >>> >>> Here are some points: >>> - fuzzy discussion on moose-dev >>> - I was not aware that there is a moose and moose-dev I thought >>> that moose was deprecated >>> else I would have shout there :) >>> - web site with a lot of unclear licenses (so may be this one >>> could >>> be fixed first) >>> - GPL discussion in addition to creativecommons to BSD. >>> - Not clear statement from an outsider about what were the >>> parts >>> touched by what. (may be this was said >>> and I did not understand it as it should have). >>> >>> I think that we should have a clear statement and position to >>> solve >>> that for the future. >>> Here is a draft of the moose license that we could ask people to >>> sign. Once you have the missing information, then I could ask >>> the >>> past moosers >>> to sign it: sara, pierrick, hani, mathieu, damien and me. >>> >>> >>> <MooseLicenseAgreement.doc> >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 25 nov. 07, at 16:32, Toon Verwaest wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Even while I am not a board member, I agree with Orla and would >>>> like >>>> to join in on this. I think it woulod be useful to have a >>>> little >>>> bit >>>> less mindless shouting but instead a reasonable explenatory >>>> talk in >>>> ---1--- mail (thread, one person talking at a time). >>>> >>>> I probably missed the mail with the origin of the problem. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Toon >>>> >>>> On (25/11/07 12:57), Orla Greevy wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Orla Greevy &lt;greevy(a)iam.unibe.ch&gt; >>>>> To: Related to the development of Moose and other related >>>>> tools >>>>> &lt;moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: What is the first of Moose without >>>>> Meta? >>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:57:16 +0100 >>>>> >>>>> Hi Stef, Hi other Moose Board members, >>>>> >>>>> Could we have a board meeting in Bern sometime soon? I would >>>>> like to >>>>> know exactly what is going on with Moose. >>>>> I cannot keep up with the volume of email. I think it would be >>>>> good if >>>>> we sit together and identify what the problems are and we >>>>> solve >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Orla >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> hi Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> what is the first version of moose the old that was >>>>>> completely >>>>>> BSD? >>>>>> I want to know the price that I have to pay not to have code >>>>>> with >>>>>> funny license in moose. >>>>>> I'm sorry but I start to be really pissed off by the >>>>>> situation >>>>>> and >>>>>> the attitude of adrian. >>>>>> So if he wants to play alone and build a great system >>>>>> perfect. >>>>>> Now as a community we should react and I start to be really >>>>>> pissed >>>>>> off by such a childish >>>>>> atttitude. So if adrian does not know how to respect other >>>>>> people >>>>>> what can I say. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would really like to see this issue resolve. Else I will >>>>>> really >>>>>> do >>>>>> a campaign against moose >>>>>> and the foundation and all the shit around. >>>>>> >>>>>> First I decided that I will quit the board because I REALLY >>>>>> HAVE >>>>>> SOMETHING ELSE TO DO >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.tudorgirba.com/blog >> >> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev